Please people learn how to play pet classes. - Page 3

Vexden · #1 06-22-2010, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey an enchanter bitching about mez being broken. That's what I call fresh.

Apparently you have no idea what i'm talking about then.. I am bitching about people that don't read and think they know how the pet class works.

Mez being broken is part of the game, it will happen, it is the people that will state they have played this game for x number of years and to not tell them how to play their class.

I guess that just goes to show that people can suck for 10+ years at their class.

Reiker · #2 06-22-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theblaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm all for pets being controlled, however I do find some fault in either this post or the mechanics of how the pets work on here.

A mezzed mob should not wake up via a pet. You can tell your pet to attack a mezzed mob all day and it won't attack it. (I have tried this on here and it will not attack it, unless there is a bug I am unaware of...)

The only problem is if the pet is attacking a mob that is trying to be mezzed. If the pet casts a spell or lands a damaging attack just after being mezzed, it will wake it. This happens a lot and the pet has to be backed off...

Yes, I do play a pet class. I have played a pet class for ... 8 years or so on live, and I am pretty certain that if you tell a pet to attack a mezzed mob, it will not wake it up, nor will it randomly decide to attack a mob that wakes up on its own **unless** , the mob that has woken up goes for the pet (unlikely, unless the chanter wiped its memory and the pet is the closest in range). If the pet is attacked by the awoken mob while fighting the MA mob, the only way the pet would attack that mob is if it was either told to attack it, and it was low on health.

I do think there is some pet mechanics issues on here, as I have noticed it... but I don't think it is a human performance issue in all cases.

Ok, I'm sure many of you will want to attack me in this post... but I am only posting what I have seen to be true, and I am not attacking any enchanters, or etc. for their views on it.

Blaz

hey it's one of those 85% of players that enchanters should avoid like I was talking about.

Yes, you cannot order a pet to attack a mezzed mob. No, your mob will not ignore mezzed mobs once it's already aggroed. Mob is pulled and hits you or your pet, gets mezzed, pet will attack it and break mez, sending that mob on the enchanter as soon as its first target is dead.

Simple solution: stop being stubborn and map Pet Attack to hotkey 1 and Pet Back Off to hotkey 2. Hit 2 and then 1 constantly, every 15 seconds or so no matter what you think is aggroed. Constantly refresh your pet's aggro list. If your pet breaks mez while you're apping to a raid guild that should pretty much be game over.

savarin · #3 06-22-2010, 05:09 PM

Part of the problem seems to be the misconception that pets can't break mez. There is only one instance where your pet won't break mez: if the mob is already mezzed and you tell your pet to attack it.

If the mob hits your pet and an enc mezzes it, your pet will break it.

If you send your pet on the mob and an enc mezzes it, your pet will continue attacking it (even if the pet itself isn't getting hit).

If a mob attacks you (with melee or an ae), your pet will attack it regardless of mez. This is probably the worst offender because often times a pet user will have their pet on a mob, then get ae'd by another mob. Their pet will not immediately switch targets, but as soon as its current target dies it's going to break mez on the add.

theblaz · #4 06-22-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hey it's one of those 85% of players that enchanters should avoid like I was talking about.

Yes, you cannot order a pet to attack a mezzed mob. No, your mob will not ignore mezzed mobs once it's already aggroed. Mob is pulled and hits you or your pet, gets mezzed, pet will attack it and break mez, sending that mob on the enchanter as soon as its first target is dead.

Simple solution: stop being stubborn and map Pet Attack to hotkey 1 and Pet Back Off to hotkey 2. Hit 2 and then 1 constantly, every 15 seconds or so no matter what you think is aggroed. Constantly refresh your pet's aggro list. If your pet breaks mez while you're apping to a raid guild that should pretty much be game over.

Up to you to avoid 85 percent of the pet class players.. seems like that only makes it rougher on you though.

Gorgetrapper · #5 06-22-2010, 05:23 PM

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Up to you to avoid 85 percent of the pet class players.. seems like that only makes it rougher on you though.

It doesn't make it rougher when most of them are soloing anyway.

Reiker · #6 06-22-2010, 04:57 PM

I honestly just recommend any enchanter to go anonymous and LFG that you're a wizard and cast nothing but roots and nukes until level 29. You'll never find a group that assists, everyone just solos their own mob, all the time. Pet classes as the worst offenders, they also just put their pet on one of the mobs and then a) you're not expecting them to be dumb and mez the mob, now you're getting killed until you can get off a root, b) pet class begins nuking the mob so their pet doesn't die, losing dps on the tank's mob, so the tank's now taking more damage c) pet class starts freaking out and asks for a heal on their pet, even though if you're doing this dumb shit you should be expected to reclaim and recast.

This isn't counting the random rangers / monks / rogues who want to solo their own mob and the SKs / necros / druids that feel they must dot every single mob on inc.

Striiker · #7 06-22-2010, 04:57 PM

I agree that this is a great post and should be mandatory reading by those new to pet classes. I was always amazed that there were players who were unaware of how to group with an enchanter. I assumed that by now, most were in the know (although I remember schooling many a group in the old days on live).
I have been fortunate in that most of my experiences on P99 have been with group members who know their stuff. In fact, it's great playing in such a group! Conversely, it REALLY sucks to realize that the people in the group have no clue and don't want to change their ways. (Reminds me of grouping with a cleric in Blackburrow who wanted to use is new AoE spell all the time (waking my mez'd mobs) and blast away with his DD spell. I eventually left as he would not change and we had our tank die a couple of times.

Gorgetrapper · #8 06-22-2010, 05:07 PM

Landis and Vexden, you know I'm your tank in every group situation and that I'm the best out there. Fuck those shadowknights, they just take the easy way out. You should both know who this is.

Landis · #9 06-22-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorgetrapper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Landis and Vexden, you know I'm your tank in every group situation and that I'm the best out there. Fuck those shadowknights, they just take the easy way out. You should both know who this is.

stop leveling so fast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kainzo · #10 06-22-2010, 05:47 PM

I'm an shadowknight and I almost always throw a few taunts in before breaking the mob, unless the enchanter is at high health and can take the beating.