Is antisemitism tolerated on p1999 forums?

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand people who still think that censoring the internet is even remotely feasible in 2016. Don't like something someone said? Reply to them or ignore it, but don't expect the internet to be some sort of safe space where you never have to confront the reality that some people hold some fucked up opinions. Free and open discourse, even when it includes some insensitive ideas, is more important than your feels.

There is an ignore function the the forums, please feel free to use it for any posters who offend you. Fuck off with trying to censor shit for everyone though.

It's not so much a matter of "censoring the internet" as it is not providing a literal forum for racism. For example, in America, we've already agreed, as a society, that censorship of speech is a bad thing. And yet, you're not free to walk into a private establishment and deliver a racist rant without being removed. Freedom of speech means you don't go to jail for advocating ideas, even if they're bad ones. It doesn't mean you get invited to every dinner party to espouse your views.

This is a private forum. Its owners exercise nearly complete control over what is and isn't allowed to be published on it. Posts including staff criticism or real life attacks, for instance, are frequently removed and often result in loss of forum access for the poster. So it's disingenuous to act like speech on this forum isn't already being censored. It is selective censorship, and it's fair game to ask why certain forms of speech (i.e. overt anti-semitism) are not banned--or those bans are not vigorously enforced--while others are.

There is obviously no rule forbidding this forum from promoting or turning a blind eye to racist or anti-semitic speech. If the forum runners approve of it, that's within their rights. The OP justifiably asks whether they do--whether their silence on the issue is intentional or whether they were unaware of the post in question. Presumably it matters to him and will impact his continued patronage of the project.

I appreciate the anti-censorship angle, but it just doesn't apply here. This is a private elf club and if its members and/or owners agree that racism isn't invited to elf club, then hey: it isn't. The interests of open discourse aren't really served by an elf simulator forum at all, so let's not kid ourselves, but to the extent that they are, allowing internet people to post offensively bigoted content with impunity isn't serving them. It's far more likely to chill open discourse.

[Loke]

You'd be spot on Dald if I had been complaining to the forum owners about censorship - they have every rght to limit the type of dicussion on their forums. I wasn't addressing them though. I was bitching at a single person who was appealling to the forum mods in favor of censorship. So I think it does apply here. He is specifically requesting the mods censor content he finds disagreeable, which I find disagreeable. Not sure how my criticism of his criticism is any less applicable.

[Nihilist_santa]

Forum owners are free to do what they wish and to have or enforce any rules they see fit. The OP is just butt hurt because in recent OT political discussions his views have been tarnished by the actions of individuals in Europe, the US, and ME. References to ZOG are political not racial and are as valid to criticize as radical Islam in my opinion.

[Spyder73]

Exhibit A

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do jew oven lift bro?

[Sage Truthbearer]

Originally Posted by Daldolma

Posts including staff criticism or real life attacks, for instance, are frequently removed and often result in loss of forum access for the poster.

Eating a forum ban doesn't really mean much when it doesn't affect your in-game characters and you can just register a new forum account in seconds.

P2002 had the right idea: your forum account is tied to your in-game one. If you get a ban on the forums and your characters get banned in-game too.

The result? Their forum isn't Stormfront 2.0 like it is here and there's basically no need for staff to ever moderate. Freakin' shocker, I know.

[snergle]

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eating a forum ban doesn't really mean much when it doesn't affect your in-game characters and you can just register a new forum account in seconds.

P2002 had the right idea: your forum account is tied to your in-game one. If you get a ban on the forums and your characters get banned in-game too.

The result? Their forum isn't Stormfront 2.0 like it is here and there's basically no need for staff to ever moderate. Freakin' shocker, I know.

whats with this server and all the libertarian alt right and stormfronters anyways? no other game server seems to have so many. unless they are all from rerolled.org. place was a cess pool when it was called fohguild.org

[Teppler]

We all want to Make MMOs Great Again.

[Baler]

The staff are NOT ignorant to who is pushing the envelope.

If these people choose to act up who ever they are,. The p99 staff will strike them down

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eating a forum ban doesn't really mean much when it doesn't affect your in-game characters and you can just register a new forum account in seconds.

P2002 had the right idea: your forum account is tied to your in-game one. If you get a ban on the forums and your characters get banned in-game too.

The result? Their forum isn't Stormfront 2.0 like it is here and there's basically no need for staff to ever moderate. Freakin' shocker, I know.

You, sir Truthbearer, are living up to your surname.

[big_ole_jpn]

Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eating a forum ban doesn't really mean much when it doesn't affect your in-game characters and you can just register a new forum account in seconds.

P2002 had the right idea: your forum account is tied to your in-game one. If you get a ban on the forums and your characters get banned in-game too.

The result? Their forum isn't Stormfront 2.0 like it is here and there's basically no need for staff to ever moderate. Freakin' shocker, I know.

aka dead community and no forumquest

shitty idea for shitty insular tiny pop nerd servers where everyone playing is a creep. without forumquest i'm positive red would be floating 10 players (or else an alternative unmoderated board with tranny dicks would step up).