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Old 05-26-2011, 04:05 PM
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Old 05-26-2011, 04:46 PM
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Some of the comments that i have seen in irc from devs, makes its hard to not think they are going to make it FFA with lvl limit. Really no point in debating the Devs havent asked us for our input at all. I doubt they read these forums and I highly doubt they read any post wehrmacht makes
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:12 PM
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Some of the comments that i have seen in irc from devs, makes its hard to not think they are going to make it FFA with lvl limit. Really no point in debating the Devs havent asked us for our input at all. I doubt they read these forums and I highly doubt they read any post wehrmacht makes
Might as well not even make the server it if it's FFA + level limit.

FFA caters to mindless RandomPK players who want sandbox PvP and being able to attack anything moving on their screen. Level limits cater to people who want WoW style pseudo-PvP with training wheels on it. Combine the two and you end up with a rule set that really caters to no demographic at all, and thus a server that isn't fun to play on.

Poor PvP environment with invulnerable healers and such due to level limits plus lower population due to FFA instead of teams = ultimate recipe for failure.
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:34 PM
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The only reason wehrm wants no level limit is so he can sit on players 20 levels below him for PKs. If he had to fight within a +/- 4 level range he'd probably rage quit because the playing field would be even.

Both team and ffa have drawbacks. Item loot would just chase the playerbase away, I thought garage box loot system was good.
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:52 PM
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A 40+ necro or druid can easily catch a high level already fighting NPC's and kill them with dots/lifetaps. A low level melee can do the same to high level casters. Go back to WoW if you want "fair" arena fights where everyone is equal level and /bows before dueling each other.

It's called a PvP server because you have to be aware of your surroundings. You're not supposed to be able to do /who all then say, "Ok, I'm level 60 and there's just 2 level 45's in zone with me, I can go AFK and cook a hamburger and not worry about anyone killing me".
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:39 PM
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Yeah, having level 60s farming newbs is a much wiser choice.

That will be REAL good for the population

level 60s generally have better shit to do than waste their time killing some newb over and over, and by the time someone is level 60 all the newbs will be alts that will be choosing to stay there and get killed if such a situation arises.


essentially what i am trying to say is that you are fucking retarded.
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:42 PM
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This was the case in Vanguard where my guild, Xanit K'Ven, dominated the server in all aspects.

must be talking about the get killed all the time and take 40 people to go hide out in a keyed dungeon aspect.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:15 PM
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No level limit would be retarded.... What needs to happen is FFA +8-8 or so with zones that are highly sought after that have minimum level requirements (46 or so and open pvp in those zones with no level limit between them and the 60s), IE: Sebilis, Karnors, (of course this is Kunark) Im not sure what zones we would classify in classic.

An across the board no level limit would just constitute in major guilds binding in places like Neriak B, Halas wherever, and killing anyone new to the population for shits and giggles, and to see their l33t Yellow text globally.
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Old 05-26-2011, 11:00 PM
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This is pretty ironic that all these people pretending to be "hardcore" by voting for FFA want these bullshit level limits in place that turn it into some pansy blue server.

The level limits they suggest don't even make sense. A level 45-50 caster or melee can kill a level 60. The level 60 isn't invulnerable. There's no reason to prohibit them from attacking each other. If it goes team based, there's no reason to have level limits there either.

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Old 05-27-2011, 12:11 AM
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Thats a sick pic bro, but you're dense. Hardcore pvpers from past boxes don't care if theres a level limit on PKs. The level limit is needed to keep casuals from quitting if some douche camps them thats like 30 levels higher than they are.
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