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[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That the climate as a whole is getting warmer and that this is because of human activity, particularly since the industrial revolution. Energy policy has the potential to affect the trajectory of this increase over the next 100 years and beyond.

That doesn't say anything about whether it's good or bad, just that it's our fault.

Humanity has created plenty of things that are not bad, such as women's beach volleyball.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Read it more closely. The climate was already slowly warming before we started terraforming the planet. Our warming was dramatically faster and superimposed on that slow, pre-existing warming. The models based on historical data are robust enough they were able to predict both the natural trajectory itself, and the trajectory with human influences, such that they could be isolated from each other.

Ok let’s use the entire sentence then

“That the climate as a whole is getting warmer and that this is because of human activity, particularly since the industrial revolution”

I didn’t see anything there about natural warming. Is it in the same color as the background and invisible?

Once again, I’m glad you acknowledge this warming is part natural, and I will continue to disagree on the amount of our influence, but NOT the fact we do have some influence

[Lune]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That doesn't say anything about whether it's bad for us or good for us, just that it's our fault.

Humanity has created plenty of things that are not bad, such as women's beach volleyball.

I don't say whether it's good for us or bad for us because I don't know. The climate scientists might. Those predictions are too complicated for me to understand and probably not as robust as what I'm posting here. I wouldn't state those predictions as fact.

However, it would be a hell of a gamble to assume 6'F of warming 150 years from now would be just peachy for humanity.

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok let’s use the entire sentence then

“That the climate as a whole is getting warmer and that this is because of human activity, particularly since the industrial revolution”

I didn’t see anything there about natural warming. Is it in the same color as the background and invisible?

Once again, I’m glad you acknowledge this warming is part natural, and I will continue to disagree on the amount of our influence, but NOT the fact we do have some influence

The natural component is very tiny, that we know.

[Landroval]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That the climate as a whole is getting warmer and that this is because of human activity, particularly since the industrial revolution. Energy policy has the potential to affect the trajectory of this increase over the next 100 years and beyond.

No it doesn't. Strip mining the entire planet and leaving desolate wasteland behind where no plant life can grow is not a viable alternative

[Trexller]

Yeah, we drilled into the ice and wrote down the chemical composition of the ice and drew our conclusions without accounting for other geologic events

because if we don't show research that suggests there is a big problem, then we don't get anymore funding

so our entire lives and careers depend upon a problem existing

the problem HAS TO exist or I don't have a job

trust the science

[Origen]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That doesn't say anything about whether it's good or bad, just that it's our fault.

Humanity has created plenty of things that are not bad, such as women's beach volleyball.

I thought the general idea with climate activism was the preservation of a healthy ecology so that we can continue to have things like that. Good or bad

Do nothing, it's all bad!

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The natural component is very tiny, that we know.

Relative to a short period of time I bet! But not overall

And the alarmists don’t often even bother to mention it, just like you didn’t. I was just guessing btw, for all I know we have a model that for sure predicts the climate without humans would with 100% certainty be 50 degrees cooler

But look at that, my guess was correct, it is slowly getting warmer naturally. Gee

[Landroval]

The only viable solution to the "global warming" crisis is to reject modernity and scrap our electrical technology entirely, and in that case whoever doesn't do it becomes the defacto world power. The total cost of ownership of the EV market is actually more burdensome to the issue than fossil fuels, and that's not even counting all of our zombie phones and tvs and everything else.

Robbing peter to pay Paul dumbfucks. None of you are smart.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, we drilled into the ice and wrote down the chemical composition of the ice and drew our conclusions without accounting for other geologic events

because if we don't show research that suggests there is a big problem, then we don't get anymore funding

so our entire lives and careers depend upon a problem existing

the problem HAS TO exist or I don't have a job

trust the science

I love that in your naïve mind the folks at NASA, NOAA, and thousands upon thousands of PhD's just didn't think of this lol

This battle was fought throughout the 80's and 90's with tons of petrol funding trying to squash the truth. The truth won out, at least outside MAGA-world

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought the general idea with climate activism was the preservation of a healthy ecology so that we can continue to have things like that. Good or bad

Do nothing, it's all bad!

I like focusing on reducing pollution in my city because I can see it’s effect on my life more clearly

If the methods go hand in hand with climate change alarmism science, then great