My proposal for Raiding guilds and GMs of P1999

[xorbier]

“Before DA, IB was like a conventional raid guild. We'd have our small tracking team (like me!) watching for raid targets while everyone did their thing, whether online or offline.”

Hey Alawen, you forgot to mention the step of you flaming and trolling guilds you’re losing too in OOC. Don’t forget you’re a “straight shooter”.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by bufferofnewbies [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone that complains that something isnt classical when it comes to raids should stop raiding. The 'origional concept' of eq did not have raiding on the list at all, it was supposed to be 6 man content only with some mobs just plain unkillable. That's why it never had a raid window to start with and you had to have someone in killing group hold the corpse until it opened up for whomever won the loot.

If anyone disagrees with my statement above, you should check out the uber loots on the origonal dragon kills. (Not the stuff given out later for it.)

I would love to see what those drops looked like. Anyone have links to them or screenshots?

[Chicka]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would love to see what those drops looked like. Anyone have links to them or screenshots?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TYvlC8IxUP..._underwear.JPG

[jilena]

I don't get how people can claim that mobilization and AFK camping are even remotely the same thing.

Mobilization:

1.) You play the game as you normally would.
2.) If something spawns while you are playing the game you haul ass to the nearest port place to get picked up, gate to one, eat a CT potion, use your skullcap, whatever you have to do to get there asap. Skip to step 6.)
3.) If nothing spawns while you are online or you are going to play an alt, you camp out in a convenient place for pickup should something spawn while you are offline.
4.) If nothing spawns while you are offline, go back to step 1.)
5.) If something spawns while you are offline and you get an IM, text message, or phone call, log in to your character at the convenient spot you logged out.
6.) Get ported to nearest point to mob to die.
7.) Rush to mob, hopefully get their first, kill it, and collect ph4tz.
8.) Go back to step one.

Camping:

1.) Move to camping spot
2.) Sit around or go afk til mob is spawned or you can't take any more.
3.) Mob spawns you try to kill it, get loots, etc.
4.) Go back to step 1.)

And while I know there are probably a few trackers that these things are identical for, this is how they work for 93.333_% of the players (assuming 15 players camping per guild). So this is what I am focusing on.

While there are some similarities... I would like to point out the most important difference being Step 1.) of mobilization: "play the game as you normally would".

If you cannot see how absurdly profound a difference this makes then you are beyond help. You have convinced yourself that what is best for you is the truth and you are no longer capable of rational thought. Because the difference is fucking HUGE. HUGE.

You can point fingers and call others greedy and claim whatever you want that somehow makes you right all you like. It doesn't change the fact that with a ruleset promoting camping in place at least 93.333_% of your camping raid force is no longer actually playing the game.

So, it doesn't matter that you believe you are fighting the good fight in your twisted mind, you are making the game an even shittier place to play, for your own greed, than the greedy guys before you were. Congrats, you win at being selfish.

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by jilena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't get how people can claim that mobilization and AFK camping are even remotely the same thing... rational argument...Congrats, you win at being selfish.

^^ + 1

[Qaedain]

+2. Absolutely, incredibly right. Great post, Jilena.

[Aadill]

I could be wrong but I don't feel anyone believes camping is the same as mobilization.

However, it IS, a viable option as according to the ruleset as it exists today.

[jilena]

I am not gonna scroll back through all 29 pages to find the quotes but I believe someone even said something as dumb as "What's the difference between having 1 tracker afk camping the zone and 15 non-trackers?!". I mean seriously.

[sidgb]

On the up side, with all these 50's camping boss mobs that means they are not camping midlevel content to gear up their twinks.

Just looking at the bright side. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Supreme]

Just keep things the way they are...there will never be a solution everyone agrees to as long as there is no final authority to enforce it.