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10-22-2011, 05:13 PM
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Why should a raider's experience in P99 be defined by whether they chose to be in your guild or not? You're not special, you get special treatment. That's the only distinction between you and the rest of us.
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#284
10-22-2011, 06:00 PM
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Where is your outrage towards your own guild leadership in getting TMO raid suspended? Are in fact condoning the actions of Zeelot breaking mezzes around a raid target engaged, and then calls for attack on the raid target, before it even regened to 100%? As I recall DA(pre TMO) did the same thing to Dozeker on Inny, while Dursion was Guild Leader of DA. That would make 2 stikes of the same situation, just a different guild tag. It seems that since a lot of TMO members are upset at the fact of the suspension, they are saying his actions are in the right. | |||
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#286
10-22-2011, 06:28 PM
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Getsome, my point is exactly that. We can argue all we want about each point. But in the end what remains a fact to the staff is u pulled the mob off us. Im not arguing about a week old mob, nor am I trying to call foul every second im just pointing out what Rogean said in this post and giving an example. Honestly this was the wrong place to post this but was hoping for a response from him. Love u all
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#287
10-22-2011, 07:02 PM
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When you timed that, you were not concerned about keeping Sev aggro'd on you or having Sev follow you. All you were concerned with was running to the camp spot indicated as fast as you could. Sev does not run at bard speed. Therefore, trying to pull Sev to the camp indicated would have taken in excess of your timed run of 4 min, 15 seconds. In fact, it would have taken over 6 minutes.
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#288
10-22-2011, 07:23 PM
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You got a response. There is no evidence to prove you weren't kiting the mob and some evidence that you were. At the very least it's not conclusive because a mob that's being kited is not engaged.
Your leaders and ours have been given that ruling by every single GM or guide who has ever presided over a raid dispute. Your officers and raid leaders keep trying to pretend that's not true and that they haven't been warned multiple times about it, but it is. If they didn't know this rule, they wouldn't have told your bards to attempt to pull talendor off of our bards in the past when they thought we were kiting. The only evidence presented has suggested you were kiting. The things you keep presenting as the facts have been disproven as massive exaggerations. If they were the actual facts (they aren't) and you could prove them (you can't), we wouldn't be having this talk. India, you are completely missing the point. He didn't run straight to your raid. He took the very longest way possible and it took him a material amount of time longer than to just run the long way. That means he intentionally dragged the dragon way out of the way rather than straight to your raid, waiting for the dragon to catch up to him on his out of the way path. This is how you define kiting. Continually pointing out that he took this path and made sure the dragon followed him is just admitting that he kited. Of course there is going to be a disparity in rulings between that and what happened on VS. The reason is a disparity of evidence. Make your bards run fraps and tell everyone to keep their logs on. Quit relying on forum trolls thinking they'll incite the GMs to action with worthless threats. I'm sorry you got raid suspended, but you have 1 person to blame for that and it's not the first time he's done this sort of thing. From trying to game FTE with idols and feeding trak lifetaps to stealing triggered mobs in sky, he has operated as if the rules did not apply to him for almost 3 months. Your members have taunted us here and in game, flaunting what they have gotten away with in the face of dozens of fraps and logs proving what he was doing. You followed and supported him anyway. You cannot cry foul when a ruling finally goes against you because of your guildleaders actions. You knew full well what he was doing. Your own members even admitted it in tells to us. | ||
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#289
10-22-2011, 07:26 PM
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TMO maybe the staff didn't respond to your petitions because you present your cases like idiots and send players like Durrison at them. Maybe they're not corrupt but your guild leadership is just shit.
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#290
10-22-2011, 07:28 PM
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Hell read the chat log with Rogean and Durison The point of contention has always been the double standard when it comes to GM actions involving guild disputes. You're doing the same stupid red herring that Rogean tried to pull earlier in this thread. It's just a strawman. Trystych was caught red handed on video blatantly training a rival guild on mid pull of draco. Did IB get raid suspended? No. IB has always had the development staff in their back pocket since day one. Rogean is RL friends with some of their core members. So is Nilbog. I really don't understand why the player base here continues to act like Nilbog and Rogean and completely unbiased. This is an EMU box run by twenty something kids pretending to be real SOE developers. It's their sandbox sure, but this pretense that it's run fairly is a joke. It's a corrupt box. We're all just "ungrateful fucks" when we question their motives. You're not allowed to question why they are pals with guild leaders who also moonlight as developers, using his position as developer to give his guild the edge in the raid scene. Obviously the IB trolls and the fat depressed suckups who lie about their military service are going to try to claim otherwise. After all, they are the ones who have benefited from this since the beginning. Look at the history of how Fear was released, guild suspensions, account bannings for hacking, ect. If IB/TR is the guild that is going to receive the most extreme punishment, they change the rules on the fly, ignore previous rulings that have set precedent, or just ignore their own past statements/rules ect. to make absolutely sure that IB/TR is impacted as minimally as possible. I can see why Uthgaard threw up his hands and said fuck it. This policy from the top down led by Rogean allowed hundreds of accounts caught using 3rd party hacks to not receive proper punishment. That is the length Rogean and Nilbog are willing to go to protect their pals in IB/TR. We'll never know how many banked items were preserved by that decision. I'm pretty sure it was significant, otherwise they would have never made such a stupid decision. The server and the player base will always take a back seat to Rogean and Nilbog's coddling of TR/IB. That is never going to change. If you want to raid here that is a fact that you must be willing to accept. As long as this server is run by Rogean and Nilbog, there will always be a double standard where one guild is coddled and protected above all others. | |||
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