If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Fists]

10/10. This was by far one of the most amusing threads I have ever read. Please continue, no sarcasm too, this is absolutely amazing.

[Fists]

I also found it funny that when Harrison commented on Cthulu's usage of the -, he immediately stopped using it in following posts.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by chtulu

I fear the majority of people who play this game are severely over estimated when it comes to basic understanding and critical thinking. Between Mr. Cowboy with this big of manly rifle and Hoggen, I can't really blame the world for looking down on North America.

Really, Chtulu? I believe that 90-plus percent of people who have grouped with you agree that you are a tool. To sit here and read you go on with your drivel is mind-numbing.

What does it matter if someone has religious beliefs? Now, you want to condemn specific religions or factions within a religion for what they believe in because it negatively effects those around them, fine. What does it matter that Fred across the street goes to church on Sundays and Wednesdays and lives a happy, moral life? Do you just feel compelled to thrust your views and "informed thinking" on people in hopes someone will disagree so you can call them stupid to feel better about yourself?

Douche

[Daldolma]

Haha, the world looks down on North America? Good one.

Who, pray tell, is looking down on us? I know you're not about to say Europe, because they'd be celebrating Hitler Day 365 times a year if it weren't for us.

[Humerox]

One of the better threads.

10/10

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...The point was that we, as a species, have extremely insufficient information regarding the universe's origins in order to make any conclusive claims regarding whether or not a God was necessary or responsible...

29 pages and no one has brought up wave function law? amazing.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the Iroquois creation myth, the world was created on the back of a giant turtle. I like that one.

which makes God as necessary as that fucking turtle.

However...there is the "just in case there is" principle. Come judgment, he'd be one angry motherfucker, and you'd be standing there saying:

"awwwww...fuck..."

[boboo]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha, the world looks down on North America? Good one.

Who, pray tell, is looking down on us? I know you're not about to say Europe, because they'd be celebrating Hitler Day 365 times a year if it weren't for us.

Your military spending is a massive black hole that will eventually suck everything in if you dont stop trying to invade a country every 5 years. Then the chinese will be lolrich cuz they are the ones banking your gigantor deficit.

Probably the only people who think america is too big to fail are americans themselves.

[john_savage1982]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Placebo effect. Just because they think they feel something doesn't mean anything. Also, you're quite presumption, throwing around the word soul. I believe people like that are delusional. But if course, if you get enough people who feel that way, it's a religion.

Not exactly the meaning of placebo effect but you highlight almost exactly what I am talking about. If a man has schizophrenia we tend to treat him as if his "delusions" aren't real and that the experience is related to a "problem" with a physical structure "the brain". If a person doesn't function in the same way as the majority then it's assumed there is something wrong that must be fixed. Further, any experiences related to definable problems must fall into the same category and is thus is also illegitimate.

What you're missing is religion isn't about the definable and the logical. You could create whatever explanation you want for why people shouldn't believe in things that don't appear to exist in our 5 senses but to do so would be to attack religion from an incompatible viewpoint. Religion is about the feeling of connecting with the outside. Outside the body and mind. For example - whether you recognize it or not, the type of faith involved in religion is no different then accepting that others have minds distinct from your own. How do you really know that outside your own mind that other humans possess the same sort of consciousness. Or, more basic, that the colors you see in your experience are the same colors that others see in their experience. It may be the same light wavelength but you don't know the experience of the other. This is exactly the heart of religion. Despite the uncertainty and perceived differences, people come together to profess believe in a common idea. This process connects people with the outside.


I still don't see why many of you have such faith in the ability for the state to create sound laws and why you have such faith in them to follow them. Why is murder illegal? Better yet, to what extent have you all studied the formation of the social contract? I have a feeling that many of you don't understand that your atheist moral system is actually grounded in very deep religious thought. Consider what your state (I use this in the abstract sense) has provided for you - education, language, culture, protection. I feel many of you take for granted the thousands of years of social development that led to the formation of states. If you spend enough time reading about the formation of modern states you might realize that religion is an integral part of the functioning of a state.


Lastly, atheism functions just like a religion. Instead of believing in the extra-worldly you believe in only the worldly. However, whether you want to admit it or not, you still take a leap of faith to accept that your senses are legitimate, that you aren't being somehow fooled by the natural world, and that science can somehow provide answers. What makes you believe your senses are real? Because they allow you to survive? Why live? What makes your existence as it is worthwhile?

Religion is about expanding your feelings to understand these sort of questions that aren't about figuring out how the physical world functions. This relates back to my original posts. There is a difference between understanding and feeling. They're different modes of thought. In my observations, atheist tend to overemphasize the importance of thought in comparison to feeling and in doing so entirely discount an entire aspect of being human.

[Daldolma]

It's got nothing to do with thinking we're too big to fail. Every nation falls at some point. It would be ignorant to believe America is the exception.

We are, however, in pole position. We're a minimum of 20 years ahead of the rest of the world in military might, and our nominal GDP is nearly 300% of the 2nd-richest country -- China.

It's a joke to talk about any other nation "looking down" upon America -- let alone the rest of the world.

[john_savage1982]

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lol

[john_savage1982]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's got nothing to do with thinking we're too big to fail. Every nation falls at some point. It would be ignorant to believe America is the exception.

We are, however, in pole position. We're a minimum of 20 years ahead of the rest of the world in military might, and our nominal GDP is nearly 300% of the 2nd-richest country -- China.

It's a joke to talk about any other nation "looking down" upon America -- let alone the rest of the world.

Consider Rome. Rome started out as a small kingdom, expanded to a republic, became an empire, then collapsed. This took well over a thousand years, with the eastern empire lasting loner.

United States is what? 200 some years old?