Common Man's ToV Raid Scene

[Pokesan]

Upset doesn't equal wrong, you donkey.

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Freezi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a video game we're talking about. You're literally arguing that people shouldn't be allowed to experience top tier content in a video game if they don't treat it (literally) like a job.

Just let that soak in for a second. Really think about it. I hope after taking a second to think it through you realize how dumb it sounds.

Once upon a time on live only top tier raiding guilds got top end raiding content. In this regard p99 is no different. I know you're feeling all nostalgic by playing here, and are all gun-ho about doing the stuff you didn't get to do on live, but that's just not going to happen. Same reasons you didn't get to do this on live, are the same as p99.

We will give you nothing, you must take it. You want to put in no effort, to get BiS items, and about 15% of the server, that actually bothers with this content, disagrees with you. Everquest was never an all inclusive everyone shares game, that is part of its appeal. One upping each other for the best items you can get.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once upon a time on live only top tier raiding guilds got top end raiding content. In this regard p99 is no different. I know you're feeling all nostalgic by playing here, and are all gun-ho about doing the stuff you didn't get to do on live, but that's just not going to happen. Same reasons you didn't get to do this on live, are the same as p99.

We will give you nothing, you must take it. You want to put in no effort, to get BiS items, and about 15% of the server, that actually bothers with this content, disagrees with you. Everquest was never an all inclusive everyone shares game, that is part of its appeal. One upping each other for the best items you can get.

Once upon a time it was 1999 and being a part of a bleeding edge raiding guild didn't involve this ugly neckbeard bullshit you think so highly of yourself for doing. You are miming a memory from over a decade ago, a memory you aspire to but will never reach or correctly portray.

Absolutely noone outside the insane-raider scene thinks you or anything you do is of value.

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Freezi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You new here? Or just braindead and forgot that less than a year ago there was a rotation and class system on this server that allowed near everyone with a pulse to experience all raid content in game minus VP? Who's to say the same (or similar) thing couldn't return with Sleeper's Tomb taking the place of VP as the "No Lifers Only" zone? Server staff has said multiple times in the past that if shit got out of control in Velious that a system like that could return.

Did you forget the rotation broke down because everyone and their mother wanted a piece of the action, the loot queue got too long and the stronger guilds within the R system just pushed everyone else out?

Hypothetically speaking if a class system was re-established(unlikely) northwing would likely still be off limits to R class guilds. As it is the carrot on the end of the stick to keep guilds from slumming around in the little leagues.

Shit out of control was back when TMO literally took every raid mob in the game every week. There is competition, nobody is getting everything, shit is fine. You only consider it out of control because you haven't applied yourself to get the best stuff, and want that shit for easy free.

[ArumTP]

Freezi
Ways to get NtoV and other top tier loots.

#1 join a guild that is already killing that stuff.
#2 convince your guild to go for it or form an alliance of guilds to make an attempt to get it.

This also applies to other raid targets outside velious.

People don't take to kindly to demands of loot being just simply given to others that complain real loud that they want some.

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Freezi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where have I heard that before? Oh yea I think TMO said that before the class system was implemented.

Apples and oranges.

TMO at the time had a complete domination of the server. In the current its about 50/50 on top tier velious targets between Awakened/FA with a bit of VP thrown in here and there. All of kunark and lesser velious targets everyone else gets. BDA I recall is aggressive about VP. Other guilds could step up and start there, after all those trak teeth are a lot easier to get now. I've also witnessed an emergent Dvinity-Anonymous alliance, that would hold potential for being a disruptive raid force in the upper end of the raid scene.

Point being that it isn't just one guild getting everything, no need to rotate, everyone is getting ~some~ targets. Be happy with your self imposed limitations.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Apples and oranges.

TMO at the time had a complete domination of the server. In the current its about 50/50 on top tier velious targets between Awakened/FA with a bit of VP thrown in here and there. All of kunark and lesser velious targets everyone else gets. BDA I recall is aggressive about VP. Other guilds could step up and start there, after all those trak teeth are a lot easier to get now. I've also witnessed an emergent Dvinity-Anonymous alliance, that would hold potential for being a disruptive raid force in the upper end of the raid scene.

Point being that it isn't just one guild getting everything, no need to rotate, everyone is getting ~some~ targets. Be happy with your self imposed limitations.

There is no difference between 1 guid or 2 guilds dominating all the content; it still blocks content for everyon else. Which is fine in the short term. But after a few years (assuming p99 is as strong) this will change if Rogean/Nilbog follow the precedent set with regards the class system put in place previously. So make the most of it while you can... which i guess you're doing.

What I'd like to see is everyone and anyone getting themselves into ToV to force your (foreskin/awakened) hand. Imagine 500 people in ToV disrupting the zone so much you get jack shit, that would be beautiful.

SO

Rise up ye server casuals and scumlords and take back what is rightfully ours!

[Kodim]

Yelinak was left up this last weekend due to Vulak having like 2 hours left in window. Don't remember the time though.

Would be interesting to see other guilds try these dragons, because they do get left up occasionally.

[Grandbeard]

Blue 1999 sounds so lame. How do you all manage to enjoy it?

[Grandbeard]

Originally Posted by Freezi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mostly just enjoy playing on a server that has other ppl on it

Nah Red is just as bad for so many reasons. Some people are just too miserable to be allowed out in real life and most other people stay away from a server that is all but done. Red needs 200+ more steady players at least.

As it stands now, most zones have no one in them and PvP consists of new players getting steam rolled by people who have played since P1999 Red launch. No real skill required, simply press a few keys and let the twink gear do the rest.

That said, BLUE seems like a total waste of time. I can't see rolling a toon on a server that is this messed up.