i dont always start threads, but when i do

[PVP Cleric]

All that said, I've had fun leveling up a cleric from scratch. I've gotten handouts from a few helpful people, gotten free ports from friendly druids, grouped with some cool people, and had fun doing so. I haven't been killed by any twinks, which is nice. But I also haven't had any PVP at all, which is disappointing.

I'm just plugging away at levels (and trying to keep my casting skills from being 15 levels behind... what the fuck? I have been in NFP for 4 hours trying to catch them up and I'm not done yet - wtb bonus to skillup rates) and hoping that when I do somehow decide on a guild, there will be a bunch of cool people in it to keep playing with and plenty of mobs and people to fight against.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You caught me bro I'm a sick fungi twink with ragebringer.... lulz

I could give a shit less if your naked caster can't PVP. You have GATE for a reason. And bind. At very low levels. The game designers knew you couldn't hold ground and needed to be close by.

Melee classes can take on twinks. They have sustainable DPS, and only need a cheap entry level weapon to put in work on twinks. I have stood my gorund on my SK at lvl 25 with Nathsar Greatsword being my best item, in rags elsewise, and put in work against ragebringing fungi twinks who try and joust backstabs like fools instead of just going toe to toe with me. I've taken on multiple fungi twinks, and very rarely do they kill me, they usually get bored and leave because it's a stalemate when they have to run off to regen hp, and come back for more. I don't get killshots on them much since they can just run off and regen, but with a little help it's possible. All killing me does is bring me back with harmtouch loaded anyways. They fear their K/D ratio dropping so anything dropping their HP rapidly or below 40% will send them squeeling to ZL to plug. Just fight back

Back to my point you dodged... if you can't kill them at 20 what makes you think you can kill them at 40? or 50? Without great gear you will always die. They will always have better gear, and be on a better suited class for sniping kills, because they are dedicated to PVP. You admittedly don't want to engage in PVP so why are you here? To spectate PVP? To enjoy the PVP environment (which you obviously aren't)? I love PVP and actively seek PVP and hate twinks because I see no sport in it and prefer being the underdog... you hate twinks because they are the only people who actively kill people in sub 40 game play. You do not engage in PVP. That's the difference between us.

Lol, way to take everything so personal. Good for you, you play a melee class and have enough experience/skill to compete with fugu twinks. I've never accused anyone of being a fungi twink. That's not what this is about.

If there was a player who spent all his time seeking out bind locations and bind camping players who couldn't fight back for hours on end, people would be like, "that's pretty fucking gay". Similarly, if someone figured a way around the level restrictions and spent all day killing players way lower level than him, people would be like, " that's pretty lame". Players who only roll in full groups and get every kill off 6v1 ganks then brag about it, people are like, "lol, that's retarded".

But without fail, there remains an outspoken minority that defends fungi twinks killing players in rags a legitimate pvp. Not only do they have massive gear and stat advantages but often experience advantages too.

"It's PVP, deal with it Bluebie"

Am I the only one that sees the irony in self proclaimed Red pvp pros seeking out the most defensless and inexperienced players instead of legitimate competion?

This isn't about complaining, getting players banned or changing the rules. It just about addressing the perception that fungi twinks are legitimate pvp.

[skitterburst]

Originally Posted by PVP Cleric [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's my opinion, as a very new player to red:

There's basically nothing to learn on the forums at all.

i disagree.. the forums are a great resource for anyone wanting to be an effective member of a grp.
reasons being:

patch notes are posted on forums
bugs are posted on forums
any major announcement by staff is posted on forums
rules are posted on forums

it seems to me that you are reading the wrong posts

[Akalakamelee]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, way to take everything so personal. Good for you, you play a melee class and have enough experience/skill to compete with fugu twinks. I've never accused anyone of being a fungi twink. That's not what this is about.

If there was a player who spent all his time seeking out bind locations and bind camping players who couldn't fight back for hours on end, people would be like, "that's pretty fucking gay". Similarly, if someone figured a way around the level restrictions and spent all day killing players way lower level than him, people would be like, " that's pretty lame". Players who only roll in full groups and get every kill off 6v1 ganks then brag about it, people are like, "lol, that's retarded".

But without fail, there remains an outspoken minority that defends fungi twinks killing players in rags a legitimate pvp. Not only do they have massive gear and stat advantages but often experience advantages too.

"It's PVP, deal with it Bluebie"

Am I the only one that sees the irony in self proclaimed Red pvp pros seeking out the most defensless and inexperienced players instead of legitimate competion?

This isn't about complaining, getting players banned or changing the rules. It just about addressing the perception that fungi twinks are legitimate pvp.

I agree, fungi twinks should never be defended. However they are by those that play them. Usually zerg guilds fixated on raiding and gear. Think I'm wrong? Think back yo guilds like ascending dawn on RZ. You have any idea how many full guardian mega twinks I dealt with? Those same guys usually had high end buffs too.
Point is, the zerglings can't compete so they need gear advantage and buffs to do it.

[Steel Warrior]

Originally Posted by MavstabYoudead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ Resume GOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You confirmed exactly what I already said: you have literally no idea, but you don't let that stop you from making strongly worded definitive statements that are pure speculation. You are begging me for details that you can try to pick apart. Good luck with that.

What I know about you is that you lie about random things like athletics and you pretend you participated in the honors program at a no name state college despite it being brutally obvious that your writing skills are grossly sub par.

You're a buffoon.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Back to my point you dodged... if you can't kill them at 20 what makes you think you can kill them at 40? or 50? Without great gear you will always die. They will always have better gear, and be on a better suited class for sniping kills, because they are dedicated to PVP. You admittedly don't want to engage in PVP so why are you here? To spectate PVP? To enjoy the PVP environment (which you obviously aren't)? I love PVP and actively seek PVP and hate twinks because I see no sport in it and prefer being the underdog... you hate twinks because they are the only people who actively kill people in sub 40 game play. You do not engage in PVP. That's the difference between us.

And to answer your question, I think there is clearly a difference between sub 20 pvp and afterwards. Despite being in rags a higher level caster will have access to a larger mana pool, mobility other utility tools and at least the potential to out dps standard fungi regen.

In the teens I was lucky to be able to off 5 casts. Each resist representing a loss of 20% of my total potential dps or utility.

Obviously, there is a difference between that situation and one in the 40s where you atleast have a larger tool box to work with and potential of doing some damage.

One situation, your effectively worthless in, the other you can atleast attempt to put up a fight.

You insist on claiming I don't like pvp when in reality its not being able to even be a factor that I dislike. At 49, I can atleast cast more than 5ish spells, I can root, shadowstep, have a wider range of dots to cast and access to jboots or other clickes.

But yes, continue to defend pvp where one party essetially fight back.

[skitterburst]

this server needs a "peacekeeper" guild that will fight the darkness that is griefer scum.

EDIT: in fact, it kinda bothers me that there is no strong low-lvl community like on blue... everyone seems to just grind up ASAP and join the raid guilds. but then i guess not many ppl enjoy low levels in this game

[gobletsmashing]

Originally Posted by skitterburst [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this server needs a "peacekeeper" guild that will fight the darkness that is griefer scum.

EDIT: in fact, it kinda bothers me that there is no strong low-lvl community like on blue... everyone seems to just grind up ASAP and join the raid guilds. but then i guess not many ppl enjoy low levels in this game

It's not too late to start one... sounds like fun. Would be more fun to start a new charater at level 1 with no gear / items / money and level/gear up legit. Also possibly try a RP aspect (like Council of Pestilence) or a racial aspect (All gnomes or all DE's etc).

[Duckwalk]

All you need is a high level druid parked in zone to log in and give out high-level health, damage shields and regen. It would level the playing field atleast.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by gobletsmashing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry to keep bringing this up - but the lead GM has recognized / acknowledged / brought to light the fact that 'the Zerg' is now harming the server. Nobody is crying about it. It's being recognized as fact.

He made some clarifications as well. You guys seem to fail to recognize that without the "bluebies" you loathe you would have no server and it would just be the low pop circle jerk no one wanted to play on before.

Also the idea that guild size should be limited is fucking asinine. Maybe in the narco-communist columbia this shit my get swallowed up by the masses but here people realize that those calling for that already have their preferred guild size with BiS toons and all they want to do is bring the server down so they can enjoy things uncontested and continue to grief. Just look at lite's post of him killing sandusky. Dude is dishonest as fuck and thinks it somehow legitimizes his pvp prowess [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]