Discussion on R99 vs VZTZ **POSTPONED** - Page 29

heartbrand · #1 08-21-2013, 01:35 PM

Listen bros, the server sux right now there's no denying that. All I'm saying is no matter the rules you implement the result will be the same: one large guild monopolizing the vast majority of content. I just don't think most people cared about it back in 1999 cuz you could log on and have a blast just fucking around, now people are all about power gaming and getting to the end game ASAP.

Knuckle · #2 08-21-2013, 01:37 PM

I guess what folks didn't realize is that Knuckle just came back in May and the new empire is leveling still along with the glorious return of Rexx, only reason we dont have trak/vs yet is we are farming up levels and some basic necessity gear to compete.

Knuckle · #3 08-21-2013, 01:38 PM

All the other folks that have been level 60 and unable to do shit against nihilium I feel bad for ya son, I got 99 problems competing end game against zerg guilds aint one.

NotKringe · #4 08-21-2013, 04:42 PM

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All the other folks that have been level 60 and unable to do shit against nihilium I feel bad for ya son, I got 99 problems competing end game against zerg guilds aint one.

That's all good and shit Knuckle, until you do steal raid mobs from them and have that switch flipped on you like 4-5 times in a row..
Shits classic.. Im not being negative here but the pure coincidence of this happening not once, but 3-4 times still is enthralling to this day.

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I have literally every BiS possible item in the game. I don't need a single pixel, if anything there being mass pvp over mobs would be exciting to me. I could care less if there's variance, or if there's not variance, but if you think variance is going to help foster mass pvp then you're horribly mistaken.

But yet you still log in every 5.5 hours a week for what? HB you do contradict yourself in so many ways its mind boggling... Lets delve into HBs mind a sec... On one hand you are a huge proponent for a "thriving server" and would love to see more pvp, but at the same time you are fueling the machine that keeps this from happening....
Hypocrisy at its finest I suppose...

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TMO grows strong because they have to compete for their loots with people that do more than cry in global ooc, and whine on boards for GM assisted variance so they can avoid PvP. They also raid with greater than twice our numbers.

Us Nihilum grow fat and decadent on the dragon spoils, because our competition lacks proper leadership, and too much infighting. I pick my teeth with weapons that Sektorz would spend a month worth of his RMT funds for. Why? Shits Classic.

Frankly Nihilum isn't much different from the 20 guilds the competition has created, except we have Nizzar's leadership, which is poopsocking excellence, and people within the guild generally have a higher interest in making the guild stronger over the individual.

In short, less greed, better leaders.

Does anyone miss the days when the cries were "Nihilum doesn't pvp cause they suck"? Now batphones mention PvP and we have people logging in that we haven't seen in a month and it's "Nihilum is a zerg, we can't compete!". Perhaps you need more pvpers and less ooc warriors.

I could be wrong, I am an old man after all. I remember back when CNN was a news station!

And Kringe beat Nihilum? If that's all it takes to 'beat' us I suggest more logging in on Fridays to attack, Fridays are an epically slow day for us. I think it's great you can field 47 on a Friday, I can guarantee Nihilum has never been able to pull that off.

I think what Nirgon was getting at MaelVz is that we took what we had to work with to compete.. For 2 solid weeks we took about every Raid mob you had, and continued to push back the raid times to further help us and out of Nihilums Prime time... But the man who controls the switch defeated everyone.... The all of a sudden "42 day Server Resets", coupled with a few more "Server Resets" basically instills into peoples mind, OK, we may beat Nihilum but we simply cannot beat the guy who controls the power... This is a lose/lose situation.... Hence why we left.

PS. Plz don't ban just calling a spade a spade..

Malevz · #5 08-21-2013, 05:04 PM

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I think what Nirgon was getting at MaelVz

It's Malevz, I used the name long prior to VZ, no relation to mael, maelz or anyone else on VZ, except Malevz and Malevo.

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is that we took what we had to work with to compete.. For 2 solid weeks we took about every Raid mob you had, and continued to push back the raid times to further help us and out of Nihilums Prime time... But the man who controls the switch defeated everyone.... The all of a "Sudden" 42 day Server resets, coupled with a few more "Server Resets" basically instills into peoples mind, OK, we may beat Nihilum but we simply cannot beat the guy who controls the power... This is a lose/lose situation.... Hence why we left.

Not the I believe the GM conspiracy theory, the server got reset and the whole Force/Azrael alliance crumbled over a cloak of flames... but who is controlling the repops?

I assume only Sirken and Rogean have that power. Sirken is a decent level headed guy, and from what I know Rogean doesn't have any real interest in repops. Also why would a GM want to hurt the competition? Personally I'm thrilled every time the opposition gets a raid mob. Competition makes the server interesting, and frankly it's the Nihilum bank that loses out, not the actual members.

No offense but I see failure after failure followed by excuses.

NotKringe · #6 08-21-2013, 05:14 PM

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It's Malevz, I used the name long prior to VZ, no relation to mael, maelz or anyone else on VZ, except Malevz and Malevo.

Not the I believe the GM conspiracy theory, the server got reset and the whole Force/Azrael alliance crumbled over a cloak of flames... but who is controlling the repops?

I assume only Sirken and Rogean have that power. Sirken is a decent level headed guy, and from what I know Rogean doesn't have any real interest in repops. Also why would a GM want to hurt the competition? Personally I'm thrilled every time the opposition gets a raid mob. Competition makes the server interesting, and frankly it's the Nihilum bank that loses out, not the actual members.

No offense but I see failure after failure followed by excuses.

On this notion I challenge you to find me how many "42 Day Server Resets" Red99 has had since its inception...
I'll save you the time... 3 in 2 years.... and two of them back to back when mobs were taken away from Nihilum...... Like I said I seriously doubt Rogean could "give a fuck" per se, but the pure coincidence was enough to demoralize half of the recruits and people I had to draw from the already small population.... And why couldn't the server Resets happen once out of the 5 times it happened during our tenure, during the evening? Everyone of them happened around 3-4pm est where Nihilum can batphone 20-25 (while the rest of us were still at work)... Before you chime in and say Rogean did this when "he could"..... A simple Scheduled Task could resolve this during any timeframe. All of this can be done without any hands on "resets" per se... And that coupled with the fact the last time this happened to my guys, Rogean had logged in (hadn't seen him in 4months) and banned the entire guild (including people who weren't online)... Those few things push people away from wanting to compete on this server at all...

Hopefully with Sirken/Nilbog/Rogean having a AMA, a few things can get ironed out and people may come back. I seriously doubt there is any Staff corruption in its current form, but try explaining that to 30 people in TS who came from being the underdogs to actually taking stuff away from Nihilum, to have it constantly taken back away from you......

And that my friend was the failure..

Nirgon · #7 08-21-2013, 01:40 PM

Lot of people don't think blue sucks and it has had Kunark longer than red

Wonder why that is

And, still, no Sirran charm = less sky.. not surprised at all