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Old 07-25-2013, 05:23 PM
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1: Yeah that is the shitty part :\ It is hard to accept having things taken away from you when you weren't the one who screwed things up.
2: weird but i think the point was it wont affect me if the server doesnt wipe, true enough.
3: Pretty sure if you're playing p99 to begin with you have time for that shit.
4: Mine was starting brand new on day 1 and having real classic progression and not being stuck in kunark for 2 years and counting :P
5: Do you even play on this server? This bullet point reply is deserving of its own thread.
6: raid mobs arent the reason people are wanting a wipe, at all.
7: same shit different continent.

You point out the obvious in the debate for a server wipe... It is clearly logical that there are people who want a fresh start and people who want to continue.

In the end, its clearly been stated there will never be a wipe, which is a shame but I rather enjoy the idea of a wipe and experiencing that part of a servers life. It definitely is one of the best times of a server... Day 1 experiences are a game all its own.

Like I said though, there won't be a wipe or even a new server... Which is a shame... It really is. If we lived in a perfect world, we could cater to both types of players but we live in a shitty world with downsides to everything.
3. I mean as I said earlier, it took me 2 1/2 years to level my toon because I often don't have much time. I have trouble envisioning waiting that long to get back to raiding again.
4. I didn't start on day one and entered into a very wealthy server, and I still came back to play this years later as fun can still be had under these conditions. I guess everyone has different past experiences with the game though. Still doesn't serve as a substantial reason to wipe.
5. If they fixed what is going on with guilds and camps (force rotations/no perma camping) many of the problems would be fixed and the wealth disparity would slowly decrease. This process would be easier than a wipe. That is basically the same as 6.
7. 5 would need to be enforced on velious as well. Otherwise half the server will be stuck with dragon faction, the other half with giant, and half the content will be impractical to try and achieve, like much of the end game content now.

I think the duping can be taken care of, and many of the items and pp confiscated. Only my humble thoughts
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:23 PM
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I don't want to wipe the server - did your brain just explode?
please re-read the title of this thread. moran.

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It will make it easier for your mommy to wash your undies.
oh, you mean i wouldn't have to send my laundry to your girlfriend any more? nice.

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Still doesn't serve as a substantial reason to wipe.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:24 PM
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Maybe a solution could be reached where both groups of people could be happy.
Screw the people who don't want a wipe, imo.

The point of this server is to be classic, and two years in Kunark isn't classic. Might as well rename this ProjectKunark.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:25 PM
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Might as well rename this ProjectKunark.
it's what we have, and i'm not complaining.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:25 PM
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:31 PM
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I think the main thing meant by classic in this case is no huge game-altering content beyond Velious, not all of the minutia bitched about here, like how Kunark has been the only expansion for too long, or how there is rampant RMT, duping, perma-camping, etc. All that can be addressed without a wipe. So get a grip and realize you're not king of the mountain until you kick the king off it, which you won't, because your whining indicates you're a bunch of plebs. So screw you're M.O. IMO
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:32 PM
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please re-read the title of this thread. moran.



oh, you mean i wouldn't have to send my laundry to your girlfriend any more? nice.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:33 PM
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New players here actually have more benefit of a wipe than old veteran neckbeards.

A wipe means guises, manastones and rubicite drops and the entire server is able to assist you in hitting cap while meeting players that normally you would never see.

With that said... We can also just keep going down this boring road of a set-in-stone bloated server we currently have that correction: only a few people seem to be happy with.
Rhuma, I'm relatively new (2 mos as you can see by join date) and I do not feel I have more benefit from a wipe than "old veteran neckbeards".

I have been enjoying my time here. Many zones in my level range are well populated, even better than they were on Live tbh. I find groups regularly, go to the dungeons I want to go to with appropriately leveled groups (and this is "all of the dungeons in my level range" - I haven't missed a single one yet and that makes me very happy). I think Grallos has gained at most 10 levels in the outdoors out of the 39 he has and most of those were pre-10.

A wipe means long lines at Najena, overcamping in Cazic-Thule and at evil eye camp in Lower Guk. It means that the last 2 months I spent doing all this cool stuff I never did on Live basically merits a do-over because a bunch of guys at the top are grumpy about the raid scene and the prevalence of Kunark loot. It would be OK but would it be awesome? Not nearly as awesome as all you old schoolers would like to think, certainly not awesome for us new people who more or less just got here. I'll still have the memories of these last 2 months granted, and these memories have been great stuff, but I don't think they would be improved upon by a server wipe. Velious mudflation will wipe a lot of these problems away as new, better items hit the server and old stuff gets nerfed as with the classic time line.

I just want you to know my testimony as an actual new player so you don't think you're speaking for all of them. I bet a lot of new players who don't post in these forums would feel more or less the same way.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:33 PM
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oh shit, your meme has totally changed my stance on this whole thing! i can't believe how wrong i've been and how right you are!

wait. nevermind. you're still a dumbass.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:34 PM
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What if I told you...

Creating a new server, with classic ruleset, would wipe Blue clean.
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