Nocturne

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If someone tells you something is such a way in science you do not take it on faith that it is correct. You challenge it and test it so that your knowledge and experience are what you take it on, not fucking faith.

That is the entire premise of science. You've even mentioned it before with scientists disproving each other. If they all took Science on faith, it would be where religion is today.

This is the opposite of what most people in this thread propose. You do not personally test every hypothesis you come across. You rely on experts to decide that knowledge for you.

People should read some of Bertrand Russell's work on the Scientific Outlook. He goes into some interesting points drawn from speculating the effects of science on societies. He mentions what he calls a society of learned experts. You wont have to question anything because a learned expert will be there to tell you what is right. Quite interesting stuff. This was written around or prior to WWII I believe and it is strange how he keeps referring to Soviet Russia as a great experiment in scientific dictatorships. He ties this all in with social sciences and propaganda , resource management, population control, it is a very cold and analytic piece. Gets right to the heart of the scientific mindset. Not this romanticized Mr. Wizard idea people have grown up with.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the opposite of what most people in this thread propose. You do not personally test every hypothesis you come across. You rely on experts to decide that knowledge for you.

People should read some of Bertrand Russell's work on the Scientific Outlook. He goes into some interesting points drawn from speculating the effects of science on societies. He mentions what he calls a society of learned experts. You wont have to question anything because a learned expert will be there to tell you what is right. Quite interesting stuff. This was written around or prior to WWII I believe and it is strange how he keeps referring to Soviet Russia as a great experiment in scientific dictatorships. He ties this all in with social sciences and propaganda , resource management, population control, it is a very cold and analytic piece. Gets right to the heart of the scientific mindset. Not this romanticized Mr. Wizard idea people have grown up with.

Was more of a general you than a literal. However, that is not to say people shouldn't educate themselves on the subject enough to have a better formed opinion on what "experts" deem correct or incorrect.

I was getting at the fact that if a person can challenge and test a possibly theory, then he/she should and not take it on faith. If a person isn't in the position, he should educate himself to a point he can make an informed decision with the findings of people who can challenge and test. If a person isn't in the position and doesn't want to educate himself, he probably shouldn't go around acting as such.

[gotrocks]

even though i <3 you both, this thread should be less autotune vs hbb and more everyone vs nocturne.

[Black Jesus]

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please

evoluton = hoax

[Zadrian]

You must be able to tell the future if you know what we will be able to invent.

I'll say again though, it is funny to see a person who seems to follow a religion that preaches humility, acting so arrogantly.

Please continue to wonder why people don't just take the bible as "evidence" for a god

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny how you people think God is based on faith. Actually the Bible says

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny how you people think God is based on faith. Actually the Bible says that God is obvious and that faith is not blind but rather that everything that exists is literal proof of Gods existence.



Evolution requires far more faith than belief in God. Nihilist nailed it on the head earlier but of course it goes ignored by the ignorant ones. You morons just insert "time did it" whenever asked to explain why nobody has ever actually seen evolution cause one species to become another entirely.

If you seriously think that something as advanced as DNA(more advanced than anything man has ever or will ever make) can form randomly in nature than your brain simply does not work correctly and there is literally something mentally wrong with you. Honestly it doesn't even matter anymore, there is literally zero point in even having a debate. You are set in your ignorant ways and literally nothing short of divine intervention will do anything to help you.

not sure if srs

[Hitchens]

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[Black Jesus]

thanks r/atheism

[Black Jesus]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya that's the reason why people don't take the bible as evidence lol. What a joke you and those people are. You should judge the Bible based on the merit of it's content, not by the men who preach it. As if to say if I came humbly presenting the information I have that I would be met with the same. Been there, done that, doesn't really do shit. Your kind is ALWAYS arrogant so how about being less of a hypocrite maybe.

As for knowing the future of what man will invent. I don't need to know the future to know that we will never be able to surpass the abilities of God. Why else do you think that we still to this day, with the most brilliant minds in the history of the world working around the clock, cannot recreate DNA. How can something form randomly in nature that is so unbelievably complex, even we cannot duplicate it? Does this really make sense to you? Complex things can't just form randomly. They are ALWAYS the product of intelligent intervention. This should be the most basic of basic common sense.

The intricate machinery of nature and mathematical perfection of the universe and things like DNA databases led me to deism.