FE knowingly KS's TMO's Trak, Rushes to complete keys and Epics

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Servellious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So pretty much every week we have to read about TMO crying over something. I don't mind u guys bragging like in vp, we got out played but this constant and crying just doesn't seem like something a top dog would do.

You have never been top dog, how would you know?

[Autotune]

States we have problems, intentionally turned in loot knowing they didn't have FTE.

Usually when a guild rushes to turn in loot, they at least do it when FTE isn't known yet.

[Autotune]

You can repeat that, "you weren't sure if you actually snagged FTE or not."

I won't buy it, it's quite easy to tell when something is engaged when you have ~15 seconds to observe the situation.

Not that it's a bad call really, considering how things have been handled in the past. You can easily tell when things aren't going your way and just take over the situation for loot. In that aspect, it's no different than Zeelot AEing those mobs when TR was stalling on VS with minimal people for nearly 2 mins.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can repeat that, "you weren't sure if you actually snagged FTE or not."

I won't buy it, it's quite easy to tell when something is engaged when you have ~15 seconds to observe the situation.

Not that it's a bad call really, considering how things have been handled in the past. You can easily tell when things aren't going your way and just take over the situation for loot. In that aspect, it's no different than Zeelot AEing those mobs when TR was stalling on VS with minimal people for nearly 2 mins.

that's false. option thought for sure he had fte and we engaged based on that. obviously dark had first engage, but i assume option thought he fd'd and that he hit trak prior to zeelot, which did actually happen.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that's false. option thought for sure he had fte and we engaged based on that. obviously dark had first engage, but i assume option thought he fd'd and that he hit trak prior to zeelot, which did actually happen.

I'm having mixed emotions about this. I've seen option try to train, so I know he isn't spot on with things. However, anyone should be able to tell when Trak is aggro'd or disengaged when they have time to observe the situation as long as he did.

A fraps of the FE engage would definitely shed more light on how it looked to him, but I still don't buy how you can think you have FTE with trak's aggro range and 2 people using DA stall engage tactics (which is what it is, it's been used countless times since back when I raided... nothing new at all, even some taking 2 DAs).

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm having mixed emotions about this. I've seen option try to train, so I know he isn't spot on with things. However, anyone should be able to tell when Trak is aggro'd or disengaged when they have time to observe the situation as long as he did.

A fraps of the FE engage would definitely shed more light on how it looked to him, but I still don't buy how you can think you have FTE with trak's aggro range and 2 people using DA stall engage tactics (which is what it is, it's been used countless times since back when I raided... nothing new at all, even some taking 2 DAs).

he felt he beat zeelot to da stalling again, which the logs show. what he didn't account for was darkdeath still being engaged. i wasn't in LOS, neither were the majority of people commenting on this thread, but that was my impression being in vent.

[kotton05]

[QUOTE=Autotune;878112]You can repeat that, "you weren't sure if you actually snagged FTE or not."

I won't buy it, it's quite easy to tell when something is engaged when you have ~15 seconds to observe the situation.QUOTE]

I saw 1 person DA and stall. then he either FD'd or got shroomed because option bodied the aggro.

i thought he got killed or something. so its not as clear as you paint it out to be stealin. anything can be looked back in retro spect and dissected, but we're talking seconds and trak did switch aggro to option.

What was the actual plan? did you plan on aggro'ing him having him path to shroom and position raid so it would come back and stomp us?

[Zeelot]

DD never got shroomed. What option likely experienced = social aggro from Juggs causing Trak to add, since DD was DA.

[Samrothstein]

at first I was like


but when I was like

[47shadesofgay]

Woah woah woah... pump your brakes

MALCOLM?