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[Thorondor]

Hey patriam! How much Racism do you experience on a routine basia in the US relative to the religious discrimination you face in Iran as christian?

[Thorondor]

Socialists only care about racism as much as it can be used as a talking point to denigrate American exceptionalism.

It's like, "quiet down down there N*****r, i'm tryin' ta help ya", with a foot on their head. We've already seen your support, by their own admissipn, resort to elitism going so far as to specifically state "i dont give a fuck about poor people" when the irony of your self-centered form of "socialism" is revealed.

Just admit it already, you just want there to be an egalitarian word combo that unlocks a free ride for yourself and anyone else who discovers the utterance, on the backs of the workers, who, by your own admission, you dont give a fuck about.

[America]

Originally Posted by Thorondor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Socialists only care about racism as much as it be used as a talking point to denigrate American exceptionalism.

It's like, "quiet down down there N*****r, i'm tryin' ta help ya", with a foot on their head.

ugly post

[JurisDictum]

I think racism is used to make immigration a wedge issue. That we actually have upped the amount of immigration in this country to the point where it does -- to minor degree -- lower wages.

But that's the primary reason wages are what they are and lower classes have less. Just one aspect that's easy to get people on board with. It's easier for conformist minded people to blame Mexicans than it is to blame the leaders they are supposed to look up to.

I say immigration should be greatly reduced. But that is effectively asking those that own various industries for higher wages. So it hasn't happened yet.

Meanwhile there are a lot of useful idiot liberals out there that don't see the impact constant immigration has on our political system. Or they expect to much out of working class whites.

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Thorondor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey patriam! How much Racism do you experience on a routine basia in the US relative to the religious discrimination you face in Iran as christian?

I’m a Baha’i

Christian converts in Iran face extreme persecution from the government. Armenians and Assyrian Christians face none. The famous mural of the American flag as bombs being dropped is adjacent to a massive Armenian cathedral in Tehran topped with a cross. Most people don’t care. The 20-30% of extremely conservative Muslims in Iran wouldn’t look kindly on conversion. They still don’t care about Armenian or Assyrian Christians in Iran though. I don’t ever remember being told anything bad about Christians or Jews. We do hate Sunnis, however

I face very little racism in the US. Two of my three children married whites and converted to Christianity. Third is engaged to a salvadorean evangelical

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think racism is used to make immigration a wedge issue. That we actually have upped the amount of immigration in this country to the point where it does -- to minor degree -- lower wages.

But that's the primary reason wages are what they are and lower classes have less. Just one aspect that's easy to get people on board with. It's easier for conformist minded people to blame Mexicans than it is to blame the leaders they are supposed to look up to.

I say immigration should be greatly reduced. But that is effectively asking those that own various industries for higher wages. So it hasn't happened yet.

Meanwhile there are a lot of useful idiot liberals out there that don't see the impact constant immigration has on our political system. Or they expect to much out of working class whites.

There used to be a lot of unionized jobs paying living wages (like construction) that now don’t pay shit in a lot of states. That’s on the republicans though, you’re right. But immigration is more than a minor impact. If we couldn’t import nurses from the Philippines and elsewhere, I bet nurses would make $100,000 in almost every state

[Thorondor]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There used to be a lot of unionized jobs paying living wages (like construction) that now don’t pay shit in a lot of states. That’s on the republicans though, you’re right. But immigration is more than a minor impact. If we couldn’t import nurses from the Philippines and elsewhere, I bet nurses would make $100,000 in almost every state

Not to mention the number of doctors and collegiate professors we bring in from overseas, where the cost of obtaining the requisite education is quartered if not more.

Pretty easy to undercut the salary requirements of a native made doctor when their imported counterparts dont have the overhead of 250 to 300k in student loans and 7 years of indentured residency servitude.

But, "fuck the rich" tax those native doctors at 40%+ hecause their salary exceeds 150k before they pay their 2,0000$/mo studebt loan payment

[Thorondor]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There used to be a lot of unionized jobs paying living wages (like construction) that now don’t pay shit in a lot of states. That’s on the republicans though, you’re right. But immigration is more than a minor impact. If we couldn’t import nurses from the Philippines and elsewhere, I bet nurses would make $100,000 in almost every state

Both parties fucked the unions and both parties continue to disempower and demonize unions. Theyre just arguing over free market vs subsidy to the disenfranchized now.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There used to be a lot of unionized jobs paying living wages (like construction) that now don’t pay shit in a lot of states. That’s on the republicans though, you’re right. But immigration is more than a minor impact. If we couldn’t import nurses from the Philippines and elsewhere, I bet nurses would make $100,000 in almost every state

same but about prison labor instead of immigrants

[Thorondor]

So, you guys have convinced me to swing left. How do i join? Do i just quit my job, start catching cocks, and sit around complaining about shit while waiting for the universe to conform to my fantasies of what's fair?