TR crys to GMS gets Donals BP

[vinx]

Originally Posted by h0tr0d (shaere) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Need not to forget that TR isn't the only involved in this bs. This has been going on with other guilds before them for a while. You can't honestly believe we want a server where people cooperate and we don't see this drama every trak spawn because it happens over and over and over again without fail. One would think if different results were wanted we would quit making superficial changes or edits to rules and go to the core of the issue. You know, the rules about respect and courtesy and playing and raiding nice. Haing to sit on a spawn point is nonsense. On live if you recall we didn't say you had to do such things, instead that was the action of someone trying to steal something or someone paranoid about it being stolen. It was generally accepted if someone was sitting at the camp waiting for a spawn, it was their camp. If you zone into hate and a raid is sitting outside Innoruuk's room, it was their spawn for the first try. We didn't go with this 'we sat 2 inches closer so it is ours". If you zoned into guk and someone was pulling frenzied it didn't matter that they sat in the hall outside the room. If you zoned into a sky and a raid was ON isle 3, you didn't key up to 3 and ninja pull the named. You want this shit to go away start applying some common sense.

^^ lol so true
This poopsocking and method of raiding didnt come about on its own
Its a fear instinct, and it came around by another guild(s) training, wipeing and stealing anothers kill or attempt.
already cleared and prepping at a targets feet meant nothing to some and this is what the server has to show for it.

dont get me wrong FTE style is fine.. intimidation of another guild into engageing early is also fine
but when a puller initiates a pull for one guild, and the agro wars start
or when you train the other guild who is speed prepping before they are done is lol

guilds on this server that are thinking of future attempts on targets consider this the norm
It will be hard to back out of the current state the server is in.

[karsten]

I look at the potshots on kills like that and then I look at our internal raid tracking list on our website and then I just go do other things because it's really not worth giving much more thought to.

As stated before, I appreciate the additional competition, and I would continue to like to try to find ways to make it as enjoyable as possible. I understand the glee that you group of folks have after breaking out of such a long funk - and I don't really spite you for it. However, due to the fact that for months you lost every single raid mob save, say, an innoruuk here or a nagafen there, you've put a higher value on your recent gains than ought to be the case.

I enjoy ranting and flaming with the best of them, but most of you are continuing to say things with the hopes that they become true.

[Nedala]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you suck at poopsocking.
you sucked this morning at mobilization.

you suck.

Gratz on Naggy, you actually earned that one.

Some facts for you:

We get the majority of the raidmobs, without poopsocking
We out-mobilize you on most raidmobs, with fewer people
You still have't managed to kill gore
You are a zergforce

i think you suck


Keep dreaming kids [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[vinx]

Originally Posted by Nedala [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some facts for you:

We get the majority of the raidmobs, without poopsocking
We out-mobilize you on most raidmobs, with fewer people
You still have't managed to kill gore
You are a zergforce

i think you suck


Keep dreaming kids [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

most of you are continuing to say things with the hopes that they become true.

So the continuation of training/agro wars and poopsocking will continue

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wall of text logs

Its no wonder that zeelot and crew wouldnt give up much as far as compromise goes

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Loly Taa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yendor, I usually respect your opinion but you don't get what's going on here.


The inference is that we should suggest a rotation

I was actually addressing these parts of the log:

[Tue Aug 02 20:36:44 2011] You say, 'because the simple fact of it is, that the main issue here is that people want to stop poopsocking so they can play the game.'
[Tue Aug 02 20:37:32 2011] You say, 'so if you give those people the opportunity to play the game like they say they want to, then having an entire guild camped out at the ledge with buffs wont happen just because people have their free will back'
[Tue Aug 02 20:37:44 2011] You say, 'so it seems to me that it's a self resolving issue'
[Tue Aug 02 20:38:51 2011] You say, 'the issue at hand is supposedly that your guild members are tired of poopsocking. if you're as tired of it as you say, and prefer competition as you say, then you won't do it'
[Tue Aug 02 20:39:40 2011] You say, 'there's only one way to find out. if everyone still camps out on the ledge, then all of this compromise to eliminate poopsocking wasn't really what they wanted after all'
[Tue Aug 02 20:48:52 2011] You say, 'if it's too hard to convince them that it's different, then they didnt really want to stop the poopsocking and play'

where it seems that Uthgaard is slowly coming to the realization based on the hours of getting nowhere in that conversation that you guys (TR, TMO) WANT to poopsock because you WANT the loot at all costs, and the only way to completely be sure you are in the best position to get it is to poopsock. Because, in TR's words, "You want it bad enough!" or "You're willing to put in the time/effort!" or whatever mantra powergamers/hardcore raiders use to justify their insanity.

[Akim]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enjoy it shit heads and enjoy the reinstated 15 man rule I will make sure we have 15 people on Trakanon 24/7 when he is in window.


You brought this on yourselves the GM staff and the entire server as a whole is feed up with your crybaby attitude.

This is the beginning of the end for Transatlantic Rampage.

tired of you too. make tmo look very bad with all these r&f

[Werlop]

[QUOTE=Nedala;351949
You still have't managed to kill gore
[/QUOTE]

Is this true?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Nedala [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some facts for you:

We get the majority of the raidmobs, without poopsocking
We out-mobilize you on most raidmobs, with fewer people
You still have't managed to kill gore
You are a zergforce

i think you suck


Keep dreaming kids [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and yet you still cried horribly about a few trakanon kills. or was it just that one kill.

keep dreaming kid.

[JenJen]

yendor wins

[bluejam]

• [Tue Aug 02 18:07:11 2011] Uthgaard was hit by non-melee for 25000 points of damage.
• [Tue Aug 02 18:07:12 2011] You have taken 25000 points of damage.
• [Tue Aug 02 18:07:12 2011] You have been knocked unconscious!
• [Tue Aug 02 18:07:12 2011] You have been slain by Uthgaard!
• [Tue Aug 02 18:07:12 2011] Your spell is interrupted.
• [Tue Aug 02 18:07:12 2011] Returning to Lake of Ill Omen, please wait...
• [Tue Aug 02 18:07:12 2011] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...

I lol'ed.

Originally Posted by h0tr0d (shaere) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Need not to forget that TR isn't the only involved in this bs. This has been going on with other guilds before them for a while. You can't honestly believe we want a server where people cooperate and we don't see this drama every trak spawn because it happens over and over and over again without fail. One would think if different results were wanted we would quit making superficial changes or edits to rules and go to the core of the issue. You know, the rules about respect and courtesy and playing and raiding nice. Haing to sit on a spawn point is nonsense. On live if you recall we didn't say you had to do such things, instead that was the action of someone trying to steal something or someone paranoid about it being stolen. It was generally accepted if someone was sitting at the camp waiting for a spawn, it was their camp. If you zone into hate and a raid is sitting outside Innoruuk's room, it was their spawn for the first try. We didn't go with this 'we sat 2 inches closer so it is ours". If you zoned into guk and someone was pulling frenzied it didn't matter that they sat in the hall outside the room. If you zoned into a sky and a raid was ON isle 3, you didn't key up to 3 and ninja pull the named. You want this shit to go away start applying some common sense.

I agreed.

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you suck at poopsocking.
you sucked this morning at mobilization.

you suck.

Gratz on Naggy, you actually earned that one.

I cried myself to sleep.


One of these 3 isn't true. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]