SK Race Choice

[Duik]

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Every thread with a DSM is a Trollocaust.

[Gloomlord]

DSM, when I claimed I came to criticise you, that was not an admission of trolling. I think we all know this. Stop claiming it was.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

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DSM, when I claimed I came to criticise you, that was not an admission of trolling. I think we all know this. Stop claiming it was.

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"Trolling" and insulting you.

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It is irrelevant my posts here are not about the topic at hand. I came to criticise your lack of integrity. Does this matter?

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never denied insulting you

https://www.endsleigh.co.uk/blog/pos...rnet-trolling/

The insult troll, who posts pure hateful comments just for the sake of it. They don’t need to know the person or have a reason for posting spiteful comments

I'll give you one chance to explain why you keep typing out the definition of trollng as your explaination for posting in this thread. You need to say something besides "I am criticizing you". Nor will I accept your attempts at being a psychologist over the internet.

[Gloomlord]

Well, I won't accept your attempts at being a sneaky sociopath, either.

Because admitting to insulting you is not admitting to trolling, believe it or not. There is no attempt at being passive-aggressive and wilfully obtuse, unlike you. I am calling you out for your malicious and dishonest behaviour.

So come off it already, and stop lying.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, I won't accept your attempts at being a sneaky sociopath, either.

Because admitting to insulting you is not admitting to trolling, believe it or not. There is no attempt at being passive-aggressive and wilfully obtuse, unlike you. I am calling you out for your malicious and dishonest behaviour.

So come off it already, and stop lying.

I gave you an opportunity to explain yourself. You just posted more nonsense and insults. You are a troll. You've admitted it multiple times.

[Gloomlord]

Be exceedingly thankful I even admitted to insulting you. I at least have the integrity to do that.

You lack the integrity to even admit you don't like winning a debate, yet still remain in threads. That comment should solidify the idea that you are indeed untrustworthy.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Be exceedingly thankful I even admitted to insulting you. I at least have the integrity to do that.

You lack the integrity to even admit you don't like winning a debate, yet still remain in threads. That comment should solidify the idea that you are indeed untrustworthy.

If you want to participate in the debate and prove me wrong, post about the topic at hand next time. Bring logic and evidence. So far zero of your posts are on topic.

Trolling people proves nothing other than you are a troll.

[Gloomlord]

"I know he's right about me, so the only thing I have left is to point out how this is off topic"

I've already participated in debate with you in the thread about a 4 man caster group. We saw how well that went, didn't we?

[Duik]

This thread is sill going. Not trolling Deeply Sunk Fist. Just pointing out, a simple question turns into, well this shit fight.
OMFG roflmfao lolocaust.
What was the question again? Ok. Torpor good. Regen not needed. Troll regen good and bad. Being snared good. Waffle waffle.
Hold my beer.

[Snaggles]

With so much of this game being opinion based on weighing of benefit vs disadvantage I don’t understand why some people can’t simply agree more regen is free canni, thus free mana.

One torp is:

Cast torp
GCD click
Canni4
GCD click
Canni4
GCD click
Canni4
GCD click
Canni4
GCD click
Canni4

11 clicks within 30 seconds. It’s a lot of mana but it’s a lot of work. Like a fungi on any other class you can still sit for regenning that last bit or just run around and it will come back eventually. This is a qualify of life effect. You CAN also take the boat or run to most locations in the game, ports make things better. The same argument can be made they aren’t necessary to play the game.

My issue is when people hold their anecdotal “evidence” too proudly. In all my EQ years I’ve only seen a few examples of what appears a professional statistician fixating on a video game and doing research. My own testing is useful (for me) but less reliable, I NEVER indicate it’s the law due to short sampling and less the perfect testing. I probably have 500+ Vindi parses currently in my logs. I can draw some conclusions but I haven’t confined variables and ran a parse on him for like 1,000 hours. My data curve is still wobbly.

My other issue is when people never admit they are wrong if proven so, or even allow the possibility they might not be correct. So much of what we hold to be scientific law is actually scientific theory. Stuff that we base life death decisions on. If you believe your nerd science is infallible but scientists still won’t believe relativity is, well, you might be the dumb one.

Both of these pet peeves are due to overt pride and ignorance. It’s a two-step process of believing your testing is infallible and then the vanity to actually posture to others about it ignoring any feedback or even personal doubt (which should be a burden of most).

I understand some here may take personal offense. Even saying the proposal is trolling behavior. It’s not intended as such. These are general complaints about a subsection of people who discuss in this way. Best case they are delusional but believe to be pushing absolute truth (like many engaging in holy wars), worst case they know they might be wrong and just dig-in out of pride.

Tl;Dr:
-Some stuff is easily measurable, some stuff is almost impossible without an arduous setup
-People can make personal opinions valuing one benefit over another, they can still succeed at the game
- People who are never wrong are exhausting and likely are more than they know (or admit)

Of all the topics in EQ I’ve always been most exhausted with SK stat ones. It’s also a class that is inherently selfish to play and is moderately useful (albeit fun!). People get more invested in ogre vs dark elf than if what weapons a rogue or monk should use which is absolutely more important and less personal than fatty or not. For the love of God, stop using adamantite clubs in 2023.