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Old 12-01-2017, 03:43 PM
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TBH anyone outraged but this cuckery has not been raped, the constant reminder that you get about a rape from all you white people thinking you're helping just makes every day a flashback.

You don't care at all about the people you pretend to care about. You just want to be heard cus you're a little fish in a big pond.

Your selfishness is so apparent and your vapid souls just can't comprehend it.

Leave rape victims alone for gods sake, I haven't thought about that tape for 20 years now I'm reminded 10 times a fucking day. Give it a rest.
It's almost like you're asking for trigger warnings on our posts Mick ... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Seriously though, traumatic events (rape or otherwise) affect people, and we all need to be compassionate towards each other and recognize that talking about something which doesn't bother bother us might bother other people. So I'll just say my piece and then be done with the topic.

Look, I don't like talking about rape ... I don't think anyone does. It's a very unpleasant topic. But sometimes you have to talk about unpleasant things in order for them to change. I spent two years as a rape prevention peer educator, putting on workshops that drew connections between the toys we all played with as children to the definitions of what it means to be "male" or "female" in our society to how those societal gender expectations naturally lead to rape.

Not only did I have to spend my free time giving workshops where I talked about rape, I also had to go to retreats and such where I'd spend whole weekends learning rape facts and information, hearing 911 calls from rape victims, and doing other very not fun stuff.

But I did all that because I wanted to help stop rape, and the only way to truly do that is to change people's minds. Similarly here, I genuinely believe that if you want society to grow you can't just preach to the young college students, you have to convince everyone in society, and that includes conservative-minded people in elf-sim forums.

Rape is horrible. Rape is a function of society's gender expectations (fun fact: matriarchal early societies had no record of rape, and if you graph countries and how much power women have in them it it's basically the inverse of that country's rate of rape). The only way we can solve rape, and many other "feminist"/gender-related problems, is to come to greater understanding and empathy for each other.

Sometimes bringing up the horror of the problems we face can help motivate us to tackle them ... but it can also trivialize that horror, and so again I'll do my best to make this the last time I talk about it.
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Old 12-01-2017, 03:23 PM
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i will pay for a sex robot, especially if i get married.
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Old 12-01-2017, 03:46 PM
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look another white male trying to tell me how I should feel about my own rape.

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Old 12-01-2017, 03:47 PM
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I think my posts have jumped the shark for the day. pokesan slapped me too good [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Old 12-01-2017, 03:49 PM
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let me explain something:

When talking about rape culture, you are getting self gratification and are being selifsh.

You are not stopping future rapes by yelling about how wrong you think rape is.

Rapists do not care what you think at all.

Victims have to listen to you.

Keep your mouth shut about it and volunteer somewhere in private to help individuals that ask for your help.
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:00 PM
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look another white male trying to tell me how I should feel about my own rape.

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I never did nor would I ever presume to do that. This is something I feel very passionately about (not about white males, but about anyone telling any trauma victim how to feel). Please re-read my post and I think you'll find I did not do that.

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let me explain something:

When talking about rape culture, you are getting self gratification and are being selifsh.

You are not stopping future rapes by yelling about how wrong you think rape is.

Rapists do not care what you think at all.

Victims have to listen to you.

Keep your mouth shut about it and volunteer somewhere in private to help individuals that ask for your help.
Look I said I'd get off the topic, but if you're going to bring it up ... you are 100% right, you don't stop future rapes by yelling about how wrong you think rape is. You stop rapes by changing society so that men aren't defined by their society as the "strong/powerful gender" and women aren't defined as the "passive/submissive gender" (and of course those aren't binary distinctions, it's a matter of degrees).

Again, on a societal level, rape correlates with women in that society having little power. Although no one is taking surveys or anything, you can be pretty sure women are raped with much greater frequency in somewhere like Afghanistan than here, because women have more power and agency in our society.

So the way you stop rape (of both men and women) is to get people to realize, and reinforce to their peer group, that it's ok for men to be passive and for women to be assertive ... which is one part of the larger gestalt of feminism, ie. the thing I waste way too much of my time arguing for in elf sim forums.

It's not easy, it's not fun, and it's far from guaranteed to be successful ... but if you really want to fight an evil like rape you have to be willing to do what it takes to win, even if it's incredibly hard and difficult.
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Old 12-01-2017, 03:55 PM
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last line of ur last post is pretty nice mick although sometimes I think a man must say "rape is bad" in order to maintain social face among the hysteric feminine crowd
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:01 PM
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TIL that animals have sex with eachother so that the male animal can feel strong and powerful.

Thank god all those cows want to feel strong and powerful or I wouldnt be able to eat hamburgers!
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:02 PM
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TIL that animals have sex with eachother so that the male animal can feel strong and powerful.

Thank god all those cows want to feel strong and powerful or I wouldnt be able to eat hamburgers!
Really, you think all of the complexity of human behavior can be reduced to cows?
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:04 PM
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It has been noted that behavior resembling rape in humans is observed in the animal kingdom, including ducks and geese, bottlenose dolphins,[1] and chimpanzees.[2] Indeed, in orangutans, close human relatives, copulations of this nature may account for up to half of all observed matings.

It is hypothesized that rape is homologous to similar behavior in other animals. "Human rape appears not as an aberration but as an alternative gene-promotion strategy that is most likely to be adopted by the 'losers' in the competitive, harem-building struggle. If the means of access to legitimate, consenting sex is not available, then a male may be faced with the choice between force or genetic extinction."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociob...eories_of_rape

rape is a natural part of evolution, im not saying its good but its a part of life.

rape is a result of the lack of sex, not to gain power over someone.

A college student doesnt rape some passed out person because they want power over them, they just want to nut.

Its not what you say it is. You cannot stop it by social championing stopping it.

Raise yo kids right. That's all ya can do.
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