If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[zenoo]

Ok Nalkin thanks for the semantics lesson. I guess there isn't a word in the dictionary called agnostic. People who are uncertain of their place in the universe will just have to flip a coin and take sides thanks to your enlightening post.

[zenoo]

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Uncertain does not fit with the term atheist.

[nalkin]

Originally Posted by zenoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok Nalkin thanks for the semantics lesson. I guess there isn't a word in the dictionary called agnostic. People who are uncertain of their place in the universe will just have to flip a coin and take sides thanks to your enlightening post.

Agnostic is a word, im just saying people are either atheist or theist; you can't be agnostic instead. You can be agnostic and be a theist, or you can be agnostic and be an atheist.

Again, atheism isn't the belief that god doesn't exist. It is the lack of belief in a god or gods. This is subtle (which is why so many people like you get it wrong) but there is a huge difference obv. You can lack a belief in gods (be an atheist) because you are agnostic ie, you can't know for sure whether god(s) exist.

Similarly, a theist can be agnostic by believing in a god but not knowing for sure whether god(s) exist.

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P.S. - go to a better school.

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by zenoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys really do behave like hungry jack terriers on here. I was hardly trying to say the cosmological is definite proof that god exists, I was just showing the original poster that there are arguments out there for god that arn't based on blind faith or zealotry. I am not going to go into a back in forth debate playing cosmological argument defender here. There are arguments and counter-arguments on either side, and we hardly do the debate justice writing 1 paragraph in support or to attack.

Actually, there is NO argument or counter argument FOR a God. The only explanation that has been give is that there has to be a God because the Bible tells us so.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, there is NO argument or counter argument FOR a God. The only explanation that has been give is that there has to be a God because the Bible tells us so.

faith is taking the first step when the you can't see the whole staircase

[zenoo]

There is a lot more to the God debate than that the bible tells us so. You actually believing that shows how painfully ignorant you are. If you want to feel smarter than bible thumpers go ahead, but believe me you look like an ass to anyone who has looked at anything difficult with an objective mind.

I need to stop debating with people who barely know how to read.

[Beauregard]

There are those who think critically about religion, which always leads to the same conclusion, and those who do not.

[Shakedown7]

I BELIEVE IN CHARLES MANSON!

[Harrison]

*yawn* Your arguments are almost poorly formed enough to appear made by a child.

[Slathar]

someone graduated from a state school and wants to show off their extensive knowledge they learned as theyre now an unemployed liberal arts major