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[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Catholicism is the dominant form of Christianity, which makes it Christianity.

How many millions (billions) of people do you have in your denomination?

You mean South America (and Mexico)? The bulk of Catholics are South American, I didn't know it was a democracy where everybody does what the South Americans do, which is cut themselves? Only certain sects of Catholics I know of that do or have done that, I think mostly in Europe, though not sure on those stats.
1.2b Catholics
800m Protestants
300m Eastern Orthodox
100m Angelicans

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Catholicism is the dominant form of Christianity, which makes it Christianity.

How many millions (billions) of people do you have in your denomination?

Substituting Christian for Catholic is like substituting God for Allah. Its wrong no matter how many people and authors have perpetrated that lie.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gee I wish one of these is worse and in need of reform? (Both) But Islam even more so. I speak against Zion but ultimately as far as the modern gods go, Judaism has it right.[/size]

Solid conclusion.

I highly recommend the Dictionary of the Khazars for those seeking a deeper understanding Abrahamic faiths. It really helped refine my world view.

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Substituting Christian for Catholic is like substituting God for Allah. Its wrong no matter how many people and authors have perpetrated that lie.

Arabic bibles use Allah ( الله ) for God.
فِي الْبَدْءِ خَلَقَ اللهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالارْضَ
Genesis 1: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

And from the Qur'an:

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
17:110 Say: "Call on God or call on the Almighty; by whichever you call on, to Him are the best names." And do not be too loud in making your contact prayer, nor too quiet; but seek a path in between.

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"For awhile...." is a statement right from the Quran involving any act of mercy given/granted to an infidel.

It says you will leave him alone for an unspecified amount of time. Its built in language that can be radically interpreted in so many ways.

Very dangerous religion in the wrong hands as any Imam can abuse its power.

Its not like Christianity where it states that EVERYTHING that gives ANY pleasure AT ALL is evil and you should cut yourself and cry in isolation and pray you don't do anything wrong

Catholicism is FUCKED UP in its own way, as it causes murder in the same way as Islamic radicalism can cause murder.

Catholicism is murder of the spirit, mind and body-- regardless of interpretation.

Islam is murder of the physical when interpreted radically.


Gee I wish one of these is worse and in need of reform? (Both) But Islam even more so. I speak against Zion but ultimately as far as the modern gods go, Judaism has it right.

God could punish the criminals immediately but He gave them respite. They should be thankful.

Evil is a human problem because good people don't commit evil regardless of available teachings, while wicked people use anything as a guise or excuse. And Islam teaches us to serve God alone and work righteousness. Atheism or any worldview that rejects God and the Hereafter teaches people that existence is meaningless and that our lives are nothing but a waste of time with no accountability if we don't get caught. Its the root of evil because the criminals believe that they won't be judged and that God is unaware.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

existence is meaningless and that our lives are nothing but a waste

This is a self evident truth and part of the reason for the popularity of religion in general. Wizard's first rule.

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

with no accountability if we don't get caught. Its the root of evil because the criminals believe that they won't be judged and that God is unaware.

While it is foolish to argue that a lack of accountability is the source of evil, there is some truth to the idea that a godless society is a wicked one and for the reason you suggest: accountability. Man is an inherently nasty creature and left to himself will seek little more than himself. For example, Judeo-Christian roots and accountability to god are what has allowed the US to endure the scourge of individualism for so long. Japan on the other hand does not suffer the same from atheism because it embraces a group ethic wherein the group or society in general assume the role of god with regards to individual accountability.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where "Christianity states..."

Some pretty heavy substituting of Catholicism for Christianity. Biblical Christianity endorses pleasure of all kinds. Food, drink, sex (with your wife), profit etc depending on your intent, who its with and what point of time you are living.

That whole whipping and cutting yourself is an entirely Baalite/Pagan (ie. Catholic) tradition.

Whipping and cutting yourself is most definitely not a catholic tradition, just like protesting military funerals like Westboro Baptist Church isn't a baptist tradition.

You can't put the spotlight on a few freaks and attribute their behavior to the whole. That's true with religion (radical jihadists vs all muslims), police (few bad apples vs police as a whole) etc.

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a self evident truth and part of the reason for the popularity of religion in general. Wizard's first rule.

While it is foolish to argue that a lack of accountability is the source of evil, there is some truth to the idea that a godless society is a wicked one and for the reason you suggest: accountability. Man is an inherently nasty creature and left to himself will seek little more than himself. For example, Judeo-Christian roots and accountability to god are what has allowed the US to endure the scourge of individualism for so long. Japan on the other hand does not suffer the same from atheism because it embraces a group ethic wherein the group or society in general assume the role of god with regards to individual accountability.

The belief that life is meaningless comes from the idea that mindless chaos created the universe. But consistency, structure, logic, and functionality in the universe proves otherwise so the Atheist belief is delusional.

If you're saying that religious people only believe to make themselves feel better because they can't bear a meaningless existence, then that's true for some, but not all, and the same can be said for Atheists. It feels great to tell yourself that you can do whatever you want if you don't get caught because nothing matters in the end and you'll cease to exist anyway. Its a criminal mentality even if some Atheists claim to have morals.

A state doesn't fix that. It usually makes it worse because it creates a guise they can hide behind. So "the state" can take the blame, like how we blame the "government" instead individuals who actually run it who have different beliefs and morals.

I see nothing wrong with individualism though. Why do you call it a scourge?

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whipping and cutting yourself is most definitely not a catholic tradition, just like protesting military funerals like Westboro Baptist Church isn't a baptist tradition.

You can't put the spotlight on a few freaks and attribute their behavior to the whole. That's true with religion (radical jihadists vs all muslims), police (few bad apples vs police as a whole) etc.

You're right, except that's a misuse of the word jihadist, which seems to be common. Jihad means struggle, and its the struggle to avoid sin and do good in general. That includes personal improvement, social justice, and war if necessary. So a jihadist is a good thing because it means someone who strives in the cause of God for the sake of righteousness.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

consistency, structure, logic, and functionality in the universe proves otherwise so the Atheist belief is delusional.

lol wat?

you should check out the line of thought that these "rules" are so "precise" because they could not have been any other way.

there is no such thing as "consistency," "structure," "logic," or "function" in the universe. these concepts are created by humans. what you are perhaps actually saying is "things that look like patterns." life is great at perceiving patterns out of otherwise chaotic sensation, but to apply our perceptions to the universe is to engage in hubris.