Upcoming change to class epics

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am one of those people. Directly above this post (the one I am quoting) is another one of those people.

As many people have said, making this change doesn't fix anything on THIS server ... it's already well-trashed from a wealth imbalance standpoint.

Droog007, can you expand on that a bit? I'm interested to hear your perspective on that with just a few more details if you will indulge....

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Kutsumo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't the first custom change on this box and it probably won't be the last. Sometimes non-classic is the lesser evil.

Lol we explained all the negatives of this change.

Care to expound on some of these greater good benefits for us pal? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are <Asgard> all elitist and level 60 with a raid-obsessed perspective on Everquest? Or just a few of you? Really, people want to know.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by pathius41 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That funny because my rogue on live had his epic right at level 46, he was created after PoP.

My second rogue had his at 46 as well, so my best guess is that changes to epics came heavy during either Luclin or PoP to make it possible

[Kutsumo]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol we explained all the negatives of this change.

Care to expound on some of these greater good benefits for us pal? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are <Asgard> all elitist and level 60 with a raid-obsessed perspective on Everquest? Or just a few of you? Really, people want to know.

I do not have a level 60 character, nor do I even raid actively.

[Gustoo]

This is going to be a great change for the upcoming item loot pvp server. Good job staff.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Kutsumo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do not have a level 60 character, nor do I even raid actively.

Cool.

What are all the classic benefits of this change? I notice you ducked that one.

Is it maybe because you have no actual substance in your position to support these changes?

"Rah rah rah you can make 46 FAST!!!" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Echoing Haynar's borderline troll response? Was that all you had? Assuming people want to powergame to 46???

LOL is that your big argument pal? Pack your bags and GTFO this thread, if so.

[Kutsumo]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool.

What are all the classic benefits of this change? I notice you ducked that one.

Is it maybe because you have no actual substance in your position to support these changes?

"Rah rah rah you can make 46 FAST!!!" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Echoing Haynar's borderline troll response? Was that all you had? Assuming people want to powergame to 46???

LOL is that your big argument pal? Pack your bags and GTFO this thread, if so.

You make a lot of assumptions. Is that because you love the taste of your foot?

Personally, I think the low level game will be more enjoyable without epics on twinks. It will be less frustrating for tanks and non-epic DPS might feel more relevant. I also no longer feel the urgency to get my ranger his offhand epic that I did before. It can just wait until 46.

I can't speak for the server admin, but I can see where they're coming from. There is inconsistent information on what epics and what parts of the epic were doable in classic times (according to the first post), so they can't simply "make it classic." They have to choose one compromise or another (leaving it "as is" is a compromise). In this case, "let's just make them all level 46 req" takes out all the speculation and puts everyone on even footing. Fine by me.

[wormed]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are <Asgard> all elitist and level 60 with a raid-obsessed perspective on Everquest? Or just a few of you? Really, people want to know.

The way you somehow came to this conclusion still baffles me. I'm going to simply go with what I first assumed:

You're a retard.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by wormed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way you somehow came to this conclusion still baffles me. I'm going to simply go with what I first assumed:

You're a retard.

I can't kick both of your collective asses again, Kutsumo or yourself, as the response to him dodging the fact of the matter, that epic twinks are classic, would escalate and probably end up involving some flames directed at certain members of the staff and criticizing the the hypocrisy, toxicity, and indifference of this particular change.

I made the case already. And I said I was done engaging in serious debate as it became clear players and staff were using bigoted rationale to defend removing a part of classic Everquest, Project 1999.

The change remains unjustified and confers no benefits to Project 1999.

[Kutsumo]

Azzar, maybe you should try to remember your place. You're being allowed to play here for free just like the rest of us. You're not a paying customer and you're not one of those who put in all the time and hard work to create P99. Since when did they need to justify themselves to you?

Also, here's how you can make a difference:

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see. I've been asking for 2+ years the specifics of what epics were MQable/achievable at what levels. This change, we felt gives immediate results, without having to wait for that research to be complete. If there is definitive proof in the future of which step for each epic requires a certain level, this will be reevaluated.

Feel free to find the proof for what you want.