New map desktop app coming soon (as long as it's still kosher with p99 rules)

[LittleSorcerer7]

Originally Posted by lecompte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GTFO. We don't need troll shit like this in every fucking thread of the forums. Some people want to play the game and browse the forums for useful posts.
Aka, Keep it in RNF

Thea not trolling and it does not belong in RnF. It doesn't just parse.... It gives you a working map. Pretty easy to understand this I'm sure you're not retarded irl, at least I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

[lecompte]

Originally Posted by LittleSorcerer7 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thea not trolling and it does not belong in RnF. It doesn't just parse.... It gives you a working map. Pretty easy to understand this I'm sure you're not retarded irl, at least I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Wait, so it is more than just an overlay? Does it change the game files or send information to or from the server in anyway? Based on the OP, it reads parses for loc and updates your position on a map.

[Shamalam]

I still haven't used it, but if I understand correctly, this program:

1. Collects location information from the log file (legal)
2. Overlays that information on a client-side map (legal)
3. Communicates the same information to a 3rd party server so your friends can see your location, too (legal)
4. Does not interact with the game server, game files, or anything else directly related to p99 (legal)

Nobody is getting banned for this. The GMs already gave it their blessing. If you don't like people using it, tough shit. Everything (literally everything) that this program does could've been done the day EQ was released in '99, and it wouldn't have been bannable back then, either.

[no chewie dont]

Originally Posted by Shamalam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still haven't used it, but if I understand correctly, this program:

1. Collects location information from the log file (legal)
2. Overlays that information on a client-side map (legal)
3. Communicates the same information to a 3rd party server so your friends can see your location, too (legal)
4. Does not interact with the game server, game files, or anything else directly related to p99 (legal)

Nobody is getting banned for this. The GMs already gave it their blessing. If you don't like people using it, tough shit. Everything (literally everything) that this program does could've been done the day EQ was released in '99, and it wouldn't have been bannable back then, either.

what gms gave their blessing?
server rules clearly state no 3rd party programs to gain an advantage
server devs clearly removed in-game maps
is everyone taking crazy pills?

[Shamalam]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=68

Show me where in the rules it says "no 3rd party programs to gain an advantage" please?

[no chewie dont]

Originally Posted by Shamalam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=68

Show me where in the rules it says "no 3rd party programs to gain an advantage" please?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2651

Originally Posted by Rogean

Third Party Tools, Exploiting
We do not tolerate cheating on Project 1999. Any program that provides an unintended advantage or gleams access to information not otherwise available is very strictly prohibited. Please be aware that while other EQEmulator servers may allow the use of such programs, we do not. We have many systems in place to detect the presence and usage of these programs passively, with regular sweeps to purge users that have utilized them. This is typically a permanent ban.

whos words hold more weight? lord rogean or a new red server guide?

[Shamalam]

Originally Posted by rogean

Originally Posted by Rogean
Third Party Tools, Exploiting
We do not tolerate cheating on Project 1999. Any program that provides an unintended advantage or gleams access to information not otherwise available is very strictly prohibited. Please be aware that while other EQEmulator servers may allow the use of such programs, we do not. We have many systems in place to detect the presence and usage of these programs passively, with regular sweeps to purge users that have utilized them. This is typically a permanent ban.

1. Not an advantage. The zones never change, anyone who has them memorized would get no benefit from this program at all. Maps are freely available online for anyone who wants them.
2. Not accessing information that is otherwise unavailable. /loc is a built in game feature. Log files are a built in feature. This is the only information the program uses.

I would be pretty surprised if Rogean or any other admin/dev came in and shut this down. It's just not a big deal.

[RiffDaemon]

Originally Posted by no chewie dont [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

whos words hold more weight? lord rogean or a new red server guide?

Holy hell, let's break this down.

"Any program that provides an unintended advantage"

It's not an advantage. It's been pointed out already, but here it is again: EVERYONE can use this utility!

"or gleams access to information not otherwise available. "We have many systems in place to detect the presence and usage of these programs passively, with regular sweeps to purge users that have utilized them."

This information is in the log. This is not hacking into packets or the client to get this info.



How the Hell is this so hard for you to understand?

[LittleSorcerer7]

Originally Posted by RiffDaemon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy hell, let's break this down.

"Any program that provides an unintended advantage"

It's not an advantage. It's been pointed out already, but here it is again: EVERYONE can use this utility!

"or gleams access to information not otherwise available. "We have many systems in place to detect the presence and usage of these programs passively, with regular sweeps to purge users that have utilized them."

This information is in the log. This is not hacking into packets or the client to get this info.



How the Hell is this so hard for you to understand?

This just in everyone we "can't understand" that the gm's took maps out of the game and some random guy found a grey area to implement maps by means that individually are okay but when put together makes maps. Someone get this guy a new brain please.

[RiffDaemon]

Originally Posted by no chewie dont [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if everyone was supposed to use the 3rd party utility, they wouldnt have gone through the trouble of removing maps

THINK MCFLY THINK

Originally Posted by LittleSorcerer7 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This just in everyone we "can't understand" that the gm's took maps out of the game and some random guy found a grey area to implement maps by means that individually are okay but when put together makes maps. Someone get this guy a new brain please.

If Lords Rogean and Nilbog want it prohibited, then that's on them to do it. I don't like this mapping utility either for the very reasons that Zuranthium stated time and time again. But to say this is against server rules? Naw.

But whatever. By all means, keep trolling.