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[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Dirkus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way they are handling this whole situation is really helping.

No kidding. The only kind of post we should see from their guild leader is one that accepts responsibility for the situation and seek to improve it. The first step in solving a problem is to recognize it. Without this, the server will be back in the same position in 3 weeks that it was in last week. This post by Zeelot is not encouraging at all.

I guess the only real hope is that the people in TMO who claim to want a better raid environment are serious and take actions that force their leadership to move things in that direction.

[Ungriim]

Anyone else notice that

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...But you truly are an idiot with no grasp of truth and my last hope for you is that you just like to troll.

Get a life. lol

Reads a lot like:

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am truely an idiot with no grasp of truth and my last hope is that I just like to troll.

[Fael]

You arrive at that conclusion because your a logical person who isn't blinded by bias. Whether that be chests vision of a casual friendly raid scene or tasslehoffs unbridled hatred for perceived past wrongs.

The decision gives you what you want or fits your grand narrative of why you couldn't get what you wanted before.

Dolic

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No kidding. The only kind of post we should see from their guild leader is one that accepts responsibility for the situation and seek to improve it. The first step in solving a problem is to recognize it. Without this, the server will be back in the same position in 3 weeks that it was in last week. This post by Zeelot is not encouraging at all.

I guess the only real hope is that the people in TMO who claim to want a better raid environment are serious and take actions that force their leadership to move things in that direction.

Exactly my thoughts and if their leaders don't change their way of thinking.. Understand that with guilds working together they have other options not to support those actions that is detrimental except to the few who feel entitled and selfish. I mean just look at Eccezan's post and even this OP. Do you really want to follow those guys when everyone else on the server wants to work together to make this server better overall.

I understand choosing that option when it was the only choice around, but right now everyone has a chance to make things better on this server by making decisions that benefit everyone and not just themselves. I am sure there are still the hardcore in that guild that will never change their mind. But if they don't have the numbers to help them reach those selfish goals then they are just another group of douche-bags you put on ignore.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You arrive at that conclusion because your a logical person who isn't blinded by bias. Whether that be chests vision of a casual friendly raid scene or tasslehoffs unbridled hatred for perceived past wrongs.

The decision gives you what you want or fits your grand narrative of why you couldn't get what you wanted before.

Dolic

It's not about getting what I want, it's about the amount of bullshit that you and your ilk have decided to inject into the "classic raid scene experience" for the sole sake of cockblocking other guilds from progressing.

You know there wouldn't be backlash like this of you were a bunch of automatons that just raided, collected the loot if you win, said GG and walked away if you lost, but no - you and yours have pushed the boundaries of trolling and griefing so you can have loot for your 5th alt at the expense of anyone that would dare get in your way.

Quit acting like victims, it makes you look infinitely worse.

[heazels]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You arrive at that conclusion because your a logical person who isn't blinded by bias. Whether that be chests vision of a casual friendly raid scene or tasslehoffs unbridled hatred for perceived past wrongs.

The decision gives you what you want or fits your grand narrative of why you couldn't get what you wanted before.

Dolic

No logical defense, so revert to personal attacks. RnF newbie

[Nirgon]

You're missing the real point here.

After farming Kunark for 4 years... do you really need to be duping shit?

Name a guild on live that had a combined 100 cloak of flames?

Or someone with 4 characters in VP gear? Can you people ever have enough Kunark pixels? Is there some limit where you can say "yes, I am happy with this"?

Terrible to see 2-3 people get 86 accounts banned, many of which had no idea the guilty parties were doing it.

That said, who knows how much shit leaked its way into the economy or how long the bug was known.

[Fountree]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're missing the real point here.

After farming Kunark for 4 years... do you really need to be duping shit?

Name a guild on live that had a combined 100 cloak of flames?

Or someone with 4 characters in VP gear? Can you people ever have enough Kunark pixels? Is there some limit where you can say "yes, I am happy with this"?

Terrible to see 2-3 people get 86 accounts banned, many of which had no idea the guilty parties were doing it.

That said, who knows how much shit leaked its way into the economy or how long the bug was known.

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny how all those accounts that you're using as proof got the same punishment, yet now you're advocating for special treatment.

Also, most of those accounts changed hands with some (probably even moreso now) being tagged in your own guild... but please keep digging your own hole.

All of those accounts were guilty, yet they werent perma banned, and their guilds werent raid suspended. Szeth was sold for 500$ he lives in FE now. Xeli was sold... also IB/FE Daliant bought RMT hes in IB/FE. Offenders not banned. Guilds not suspended.

Its about consistency.

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're missing the real point here.

After farming Kunark for 4 years... do you really need to be duping shit?

Name a guild on live that had a combined 100 cloak of flames?

Or someone with 4 characters in VP gear? Can you people ever have enough Kunark pixels? Is there some limit where you can say "yes, I am happy with this"?

Terrible to see 2-3 people get 86 accounts banned, many of which had no idea the guilty parties were doing it.

That said, who knows how much shit leaked its way into the economy or how long the bug was known.

This is kinda the point. TMO has millions in the bank tons of items and 0 need to dupe anything. What foovy/internode did was for personal use. __Also our guild bank isnt banned. Confirmed un-associated.