About Spawn variance.... - Page 28

Humerox · #**271** 07-24-2010, 09:52 PM

With the exception of some older players, most don't understand why the rules changed on the server to begin with.

http://project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5778

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Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll admit that these rules aren't perfect, but we are trying to work in the best interest of everyone with the limited resources we have. To me, there are 2 big problems right now that we are trying to work around.

A.) There are more raid-ready guilds than there is raid content.
B.) Camping raid mobs is not illegal.

There are too many guilds to include in a rotation with not enough content to go around fairly. Also, if a guild wants to sit in a zone for 4 days straight to have first dibs at a spawn, they may. With the guild meeting and the above rules, we are trying to promote races to content and discourage raid camping.

The current problem was foreseen, but wasn't addressed. Time to change that. Takes work, but the server has done it before. The rules were written by the guilds on the server, and the abuse demands a rewrite.

mmiles8 · #**272** 07-24-2010, 09:52 PM

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Bumamgar: I don't have any personal problems with how this was done, but you have to realize that any changes (or proposals to change) raiding rules would be better received by people if it had some kind of transparency rather than doing so behind closed doors with 3 guilds (2 of which have created our current raiding scene). Considering you are a dev here, it's just inevitable that someone will throw out the favoritism comment to get a rise out of you.

Did Bumamgar post on the thread? I couldn't find it through the OP spamming 2 to 5 individual post responses per one troll response.

Humerox · #**273** 07-24-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mmiles8 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did Bumamgar post on the thread? I couldn't find it through the OP spamming 2 to 5 individual post responses per one troll response.

Pages 18 & 19.

Bumamgar · #**274** 07-24-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mmiles8 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did Bumamgar post on the thread? I couldn't find it through the OP spamming 2 to 5 individual post responses per one troll response.

Yeah, I posted the apparently damning revelation that an officer in my guild tried to be proactive and come up with a solution to the campfest by approaching the two guilds that were engaged in camping at the time to see if there was a set of raiding rules that they would both be willing to agree to. Succeeding in that, those rules were presented to Nilbog and rejected.

Since I didn't bitchslap this officer down and demand that he approach every member of the server individually to get their opinion on the situation, I'm apparently a sneaky, manipulative bastard abusing my dev position for nefarious means, or something like that. I had some trouble following the convoluted forum troll logic, to be honest.

Supreme · #**275** 07-24-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mmiles8 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did Bumamgar post on the thread? I couldn't find it through the OP spamming 2 to 5 individual post responses per one troll response.

Sometimes you got to bring out the Spam Bat to beat a_forum_troll_162.

Humerox · #**276** 07-24-2010, 11:13 PM

retracted

Supreme · #**277** 07-24-2010, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I posted the apparently damning revelation that an officer in my guild tried to be proactive and come up with a solution to the campfest by approaching the two guilds that were engaged in camping at the time to see if there was a set of raiding rules that they would both be willing to agree to. Succeeding in that, those rules were presented to Nilbog and rejected.

Since I didn't bitchslap this officer down and demand that he approach every member of the server individually to get their opinion on the situation, I'm apparently a sneaky, manipulative bastard abusing my dev position for nefarious means, or something like that. I had some trouble following the convoluted forum troll logic, to be honest.

For the record..i never was a part of that group.

I would like to reiterate the point of this thread.

We should have a 5-7 day spawn variance and not a 5-9 day. We should be seeing 16-20 mobs on a 30 day cycle instead of 12-20.

That is all.

Skope · #**278** 07-24-2010, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I posted the apparently damning revelation that an officer in my guild tried to be proactive and come up with a solution to the campfest by approaching the two guilds that were engaged in camping at the time to see if there was a set of raiding rules that they would both be willing to agree to. Succeeding in that, those rules were presented to Nilbog and rejected.

Since I didn't bitchslap this officer down and demand that he approach every member of the server individually to get their opinion on the situation, I'm apparently a sneaky, manipulative bastard abusing my dev position for nefarious means, or something like that. I had some trouble following the convoluted forum troll logic, to be honest.

Oh shut up... Read your own posts. The idea was introduced as a WI thing including IB/DA. You mentioned it was somebody else's only after people, including myself, assumed it was your idea, and then edited your posts. Furthermore, you knew beforehand, okayed it and gave input to that officer with complete disregard for other guilds on the server. What do you call someone with information they are privy to but knowingly refuse to give it to others who should be in on the matter at hand? Your officer approached only two guilds in a secretive fashion and expect to get some sort of sympathy from the rest of us for trying. Save it. What he did was a massive step backward, and you know it.

Whatever is decided has to be a comprehensive plan that can be read by all BEFORE it's given to the GMs. Not to mention having GM input from his/your already proposed plan would save quite a bit of effort for the people deciding the future set of rules. It shows what the GMs don't agree with and where they can be flexible. The fact that it was shot down with a half-hearted 2 sentence explanation of what it was does nobody any good and further feeds skepticism which has already grown towards what has occurred.

EDIT: my comments about your name being blue was repeated there by Klaatu. I, and others, were under the impression that these were your rules and your idea, you only clarified yourself after the fact. It's leverage with the other 2 guilds that I was referring to, not the GMs.

G13 · #**279** 07-25-2010, 12:29 AM

The only guilds that deserve to write new raid rules are IB and DA.

The rest of you planar trash farmers can go pound sand. You put more effort on these boards whining and bitching about the raid situation than you do attempting to actually raid anything in game.

Nobody is stopping any of you lazy shit led guilds from organizing, putting pressure, roll calling, and calling timers on any guild camping a boss. Nobody. Instead you troll the forums expecting a hand out, or for you to be able to write new raid rules that favor your lack of effort. To do any of this doesn't require you to camp, so stop trying to claim that's the reason why your guilds don't do a damn thing on this server. It isn't. The truth is you don't want to put in any effort to kill mobs at all. You want shit handed to you without actually competing.

None of you are organized. None you you even try. You don't deserve a damn thing, so stop pretending like your opinion matters as far as end game content. It doesn't.

Supreme · #**280** 07-25-2010, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only guilds that deserve to write new raid rules are IB and DA.

The rest of you planar trash farmers can go pound sand. You put more effort on these boards whining and bitching about the raid situation than you do attempting to actually raid anything in game.

Nobody is stopping any of you lazy shit led guilds from organizing, putting pressure, roll calling, and calling timers on any guild camping a boss. Nobody. Instead you troll the forums expecting a hand out, or for you to be able to write new raid rules that favor your lack of effort. To do any of this doesn't require you to camp, so stop trying to claim that's the reason why your guilds don't do a damn thing on this server. It isn't. The truth is you don't want to put in any effort to kill mobs at all. You want shit handed to you without actually competing.

None of you are organized. None you you even try. You don't deserve a damn thing, so stop pretending like your opinion matters as far as end game content. It doesn't.

Another elitist asshat that tries to promote his own greatness while riding the tails of the established. Welcome to the discussion new guy!

Perhaps you should just read my OP and see that i have no complaints about the poopsocking. I simply pointed out that we should see 16-20 spawns in a 30 day cycle instead of 12-20. Somehow this turned into a debate about raids etc...

Either way you seem to be mislead to think that poopsocking takes some measure of skill or that it can only be done by couple guilds. Or that in fact you are so great because you do poopsock content. Trust me you are not about shit. You are doing this on a EMU with content that is 11 years old. YOU ARE NOT THAT FUCKING SPECIAL MAN!