Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last night you suggested on your forums that FE/IB/BDA should get together to keep TMO out of VP 24/7 until you lock down the zone.

Your guild told you that was a dumb idea and I assume the other guilds said the same.

After they tell you that you try to remove training from VP?

You are a scumbag plain and simple tassle. Get a job that doesn't allow you to troll forums 24/7 and get a life.

This isn't rants and flames, move on troll.

If you had half a brain you'd realize that my post on my guild's private forums which you continue to intrude on was made in a very friendly manner. I then made this post here and was met with instant trolling from opponents of my idea. I initially made that post and sent Zeelot PM's offering a friendly alternative to the current shitty VP situation. Stop trying to spin this into something its not...Yes, I am against training being allowed in VP. But if TMO is the deciding factor on what rules are put in place then we are left with no choice but to band together and make an attempt at getting the rules changed(as sirken suggested himself.)

The "Train TMO 24/7 with any willing and able bodies" idea is the very attitude which you're supporting by keeping training allowed.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last night you suggested on your forums that FE/IB/BDA should get together to keep TMO out of VP 24/7 until you lock down the zone.

Your guild told you that was a dumb idea and I assume the other guilds said the same.

After they tell you that you try to remove training from VP?

You are a scumbag plain and simple tassle. Get a job that doesn't allow you to troll forums 24/7 and get a life.

Derail on your stream but keep it out of this thread Tiggles. Tassle has strong opinions just like you but it doesn't make him a scumbag. He sees the same problems everyone sees... Hard feelings get caused over the mechanic in place. I doubt you would have a problem at all with Tassle right now if you weren't in a guild that trained against his guild in VP.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't claim it was allowed when there weren't 2 competing guilds in VP in the era of kunark. A random person logging in every now and again and training doesn't mean it was allowed. VP did not have competing raid forces in it during this era on live.

It was allowed on fennin. How can you claim to know what others can claim?

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derail on your stream but keep it out of this thread Tiggles. Tassle has strong opinions just like you but it doesn't make him a scumbag. He sees the same problems everyone sees... Hard feelings get caused over the mechanic in place. I doubt you would have a problem at all with Tassle right now if you weren't in a guild that trained against his guild in VP.

actualy he trained us first not very efective at some point FE had 16 dedicated trainers took us 4 hours but we did killed all mobs.
if u wan t real train wars u gotta look at IB vs TMO back in the day at some point after months of trying to train us and never stoping us they almost never show up.

yeah sure there is always 2 or 3 people trying to train but usualy end dead quickly and without support njot much they can do.

[xarzzardorn]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is a look into the mindset of your average TMO member:





It's fairly sad and disappointing, 12+ years later.

the best reason to argue with you about training in vp is because of how blatantly self serving your whining is. "we could have done it if we really wanted to" lol

[Laugher]

Lets recap what has actually been established (or re established here)

1. People of various guilds are enraged by the current policy and as a result how they interact with VP and use the same methods (training) to get what and where they want (hopefully)

2. We've heard from the leadership of TMO, and they like/embrace the current policy lol

3. RnF for 20 pages

So moving past this rage forumquest, how are other guilds going to deal with this if the policy isn't going to change? Lets hear some of that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was allowed on fennin. How can you claim to know what others can claim?

The fact that trains happened isn't proof that it was allowed/sanctioned by GM's. That was never the case on live EQ, for the 100th time. I'm not sure what year you started playing during, maybe VP was irrelevant by the time you made it there so the rules were less enforced. Either way, it wasn't "allowed" as you keep saying.

[ArumTP]

Training everywhere or nowhere

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

actualy he trained us first not very efective at some point FE had 16 dedicated trainers took us 4 hours but we did killed all mobs.
if u wan t real train wars u gotta look at IB vs TMO back in the day at some point after months of trying to train us and never stoping us they almost never show up.

yeah sure there is always 2 or 3 people trying to train but usualy end dead quickly and without support njot much they can do.

Why is this relevant to the conversation at all?

Originally Posted by xarzzardorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the best reason to argue with you about training in vp is because of how blatantly self serving your whining is. "we could have done it if we really wanted to" lol

How about I'll make a deal with you?
I'll delete my only VP keyed character's VP key if the rules are changed permanently, and training is never allowed. You can have a GM confirm it was done too, I'll start over on a new VP key.
But for now, you can't say that my ideas are self serving and I can say that I'm genuinely concerned about a non-classic rule which hurts the raiding scene as a whole.
The fact that you all come here shitting up my non-RNF thread arguing against any discussion about changing the rule seems awfully self serving as well.


If people want to discuss changing the rules, why is it up to TMO to end that discussion and troll the fuck out of the thread until its moved to rants and flames?

[Arteker]

people was quite polite in live servers? thats hilarius , maybe u not enough old back then to understand what realy was happening but there was not mr nice politics in eq back in the day.

you know tass u remember me to some of the player base would cry moan in the forums about stuff like: omg plane of justice trials are to rough we cannot xp in valor, omg me we need a easy mode for everything .