Soulfire

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alarti, over twelve posts or something you have simply repeated yourself over and over again and ignored what I am saying. Please directly answer: why do you feel that Soulfires are more game breaking than

• Puppet strings allowing Svenn to solo the Sebilite Protector
• The Donals BP allowing Elethia and Sentenza to duo Ragefire
• Enchanters charming the splits in Sky allowing The A-Team to take out the Spiroc Lord with 7
• The A-Team using puppet strings to kill Trakanon with 10 (well, this would be happening if he wasn't killed within 5 minutes of spawning)

Sure. Soulfire insta click. Donals not insta click--but I agree should be nerfed.

Also, what does a level of game-breaking have to do with anything? Are puppet strings going to get you Velious kills? Kunark is done. Its been broken for years. My focus is on the future.

[falkun]

Alarti, you still haven't argued why your Gorenaire point is relevant at all. You can have fun denying VP keys, yet you say that is not why you raid. If you are not trying to deny VP keys, why are you selling keys for as much as epic pieces? Why do you not hand them out to players in the zone? Why do you not announce they are there and whoever wants them can come loot them? If VP key denial is not one of your objectives, there are many opportunities for them not to be a side-effect.

I don't care if you do or not, but at least man-up and admit you are doing something intentionally.

[lecompte]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even if the devs deleted every Soulfire, Reaper of the Dead, and Donals BP, and made everything in Kael immune to charm, the Avatar of War would still die on the first day to the great casual trash alliance of Divinity, Full Circle, Europa, Taken, The A-Team, BDA, Rapture, and Azure Guard zerging him down with 400 players.

The swarm is coming. I want to apply for a position as an Overmind. I suppose I better start coordinating between all the guilds to get this done. Day One Velious clear.

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyway I'm out of this discussion. I really think I need to delete my forum account and stop wasting time here.

+1. I may need to as well. Do we have a AA program where you can have yourself banned from reading every thread but EC Tunnel?

[khanable]

I'm for nerfing Soulfires. I agree that it wasn't within the 'vision' of the game to Soulfire mobs down. Just like hooping mobs down, shit is dumb.

But if we're gonna go that route, you'll also need to fix:
-epics at level 1
-training in VP
-sub level 59/60 people in VP
-recharging items
-donals bp
-monks split pulling
-swam kiting
-all powerleveling techniques

etc etc

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alarti, you still haven't argued why your Gorenaire point is relevant at all. You can have fun denying VP keys, yet you say that is not why you raid. If you are not trying to deny VP keys, why are you selling keys for as much as epic pieces? Why do you not hand them out to players in the zone? Why do you not announce they are there and whoever wants them can come loot them? If VP key denial is not one of your objectives, there are many opportunities for them not to be a side-effect.

I don't care if you do or not, but at least man-up and admit you are doing something intentionally.

Why should I give away anything? Do explain this to me.

[Erati]

recharging is classic yo !

back on Soulfire topic heres a shameless plug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...light=soulfire


Dont hate the player, hate the game. U dont Soulfire down mobs, still requires alot of work n effort if u are downing Trak w 18 players.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why should I give away anything? Do explain this to me.

L2read

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never mentioned anything about Sky always deleting my buffs when I ported up, or Lev not working initially, or Raid mobs quadding in Kunark either. I didn't bring anything up. This post was made by a different person.

Why dodge my question and raise a bunch of strawmen? You certainly did bring up your position that it should be nerfed. You just happened to post it in a thread that also advocated that same position. Unless you are denying that you think that Soulfire should be fixed/nerfed.

Do I think Soulfire's will get nerfed... absolutely not. Should they? In my opinion, yes. To me the game should be played in the way it was intended not with some over-looked mechanic.

"original intent", sounds like you need to roll a custom server. Fix hybrid penalties, feign death pulling, clickies, recharging, etc.

Clerics were made to CH raids.

Are you sure about that? Following your opinion that "the game should be played in the way it was intended" you should remove the spell complete heal.

Soulfires/Donals BP's etc break cleric and raid mechanics. If you want autobot clerics you mine as well bring in Merc's from Live. Donal heals were nerfed on live because of the negative effect on the raid scence demonstrated by guilds using them to heal. It is highly doubtful raid guilds were using SoulFire CH spam to heal in Velious. If you say they did... prove it.

Why do I need to prove anything? Soulfire is currently implemented as it should be. The burden of proof is on you my good man.

So clerics were made to CH raids, but then you pass it off as autobots/mercs? Which is it? With Donals or without, EQ classic unfortunately makes clerics use CH chains.

Donal's BP is already reported and set up for patching within the proper timeline.

You can be a classic supporter without being an idiot.

Ad hominem you know better than that Alarti, come on.

Just because something is "classic" doesn't mean its a good idea or even valid. i.e Hybrid exp penalties... just stupid.

That isn't the goal of this server. EQ was brutal in its time sinks and some mechanics and itemization.. This server needs/should take the good with the bad.

Why not roll a custom server for yourself with EQ in your vision?

[arsenalpow]

There will be no swarm. Some of us play this game for reasons other than loot.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm for nerfing Soulfires. I agree that it wasn't within the 'vision' of the game to Soulfire mobs down. Just like hooping mobs down, shit is dumb.

But if we're gonna go that route, you'll also need to fix:
-epics at level 1
-training in VP
-sub level 59/60 people in VP
-recharging items
-donals bp
-monks split pulling
-swam kiting
-all powerleveling techniques

etc etc

Don't forget: manastone, guise of the deceiver, multiquesting, complete heal!