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Old 09-17-2022, 02:09 PM
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Someone fix this buggy ass chat bot please. It's saying infuriatingly stupid things.
You are the one who keeps claiming the group is good and doesn't wipe. Now you are arguing for safety? Which is it?
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Old 09-17-2022, 02:18 PM
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You are the one who keeps claiming the group is good and doesn't wipe. Now you are arguing for safety? Which is it?
In the above Quote, you have simply not addressed the irrefutable fact - which cannot be refuted - that you indicated/revealed/exposed/betrayed/confirmed your seemingly apparent - objectively false - belief that introducing additional mobs to a group introduces no additional risk, which is simply - again - objectively false, even if the mobs will be root/rotted:

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they are saying the Shaman cannot root/rot trash mobs that Shamans could normally solo and root rot. I have no idea why, since this would increase DPS with no additional risk.
The above Quote would appear to include what appears to be you attempting to deflect by asking an - irrelevant - question in order to avoid addressing the above-mentioned unaddressed irrefutable fact (which you have not acknowledged/addressed/attempted to refute); which would simply be an example of deflection.
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Old 09-17-2022, 02:38 PM
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You are the one who keeps claiming the group is good and doesn't wipe. Now you are arguing for safety? Which is it?
A group with 2 (or more) enchanters in it is relying heavily on mez for CC in the event that CC is needed. It's objectively a better form of CC than root and just automatically safer and more reliable. A moron shaman root rotting a bunch of adds all over camp with a random chance to break root and be unmezzable cause they're dotted 100% adds risk. To claim it adds 0 risk is absolutely retarded. There's no other word for it. Mez is a huge part of the reason this group is so safe and unlikely to wipe. A single enchanter can keep tons of adds mezzed for quite a long time if shit hits the fan and there's no random chance to break and be beating on people.

The fact that I have to explain this to you is concerning. Have you even played this game before? Do you do anything but solo? I'm guessing probably not. Who the fuck would want to group with you.
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Old 09-17-2022, 02:05 PM
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Fucking ROFL at the guy answering the "best 4 man caster/priest group" question with "Just level a 5th pocket cleric" and repeatedly bringing up Ixiblat and WW dragons (the only things that MIGHT make sense to bring a shaman in this group for) so he can shoehorn his beloved shaman into the group instead. THEN accusing the OTHER people of "trying to constrain the discussion to a vary narrow scope" to paint their side in the best light possible.

You can't make this shit up
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Old 09-17-2022, 02:47 PM
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A malo/tashed mob isn't going to be breaking roots constantly. Really not dangerous at all
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Old 09-17-2022, 02:54 PM
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A malo/tashed mob isn't going to be breaking roots constantly. Really not dangerous at all
"Constantly" =/= "at all"
Any amount of risk that is not no risk =/= no risk
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Old 09-17-2022, 04:01 PM
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A malo/tashed mob isn't going to be breaking roots constantly. Really not dangerous at all
Agreed. I never wipe when root/rotting. It is quite easy.
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Old 09-17-2022, 04:17 PM
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Safety has a limit you imbecile. The group has more than enough of it. Your dots ruin it. This isn't hard.
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Old 09-17-2022, 04:21 PM
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DSM stupidity is almost causing me physical pain at this point
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Old 09-17-2022, 04:21 PM
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Are we still root rotting mobs parallel to the group? All so the shaman can still do less actual dps than the mage? You do remember epic dot take a long while to ramp up and the 2x enchanter pets are going to be buzz sawing through them fast enough that you are dumping a lot of mana or slow ramp up clicks into mobs that still won’t receive full damage from the dots?

And remember this group has all content from 1-59 to contend with before they GET to 60, have full spell books or epics to click right.

We have so far focused this discussion for the most part on the high end level 60 game but that is a tiny corner of the content eq has to offer
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