Want to actually raid?

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Originally Posted by Jacquouille [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The eternal haters hating on the IB/VD alliance yet they were in none of the two guilds.

You're losing your time arguing here, we had a blast together, we're friends and playing together still.

pretty sure that is Bisch from VD the monk and Vis you don't play on Eqmac yet wtf!!

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Originally Posted by Jacquouille [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just amazed how you're is still defending TMO whilst you don't play anymore.

best ya a hotdog and a bud that you will still be posting here when we start playing GW2 lol

I stand by my guild tag just like all these other idiots. I don't really like everyone in TMO, or even the majority of them, but I don't dislike them as much as the majority of the other retards from the rest of the server.

I have a special place in my <3 for the cool cats tho. I even like Getsome, he is fun.

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Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh noes! people like nietche were so valuable, how will we ever survive without them?

have fun with our scraps

See, BDA has no qualms talking about their past friends. People like Nietche huh? Keep disgracing what BDA stands for, I am sure your guildmates like it. Every day you guys become more and more like what VD was right before they imploded.

I remember talking to your guild back when TMO was going against IB/VD. I tried to get your raid guild to join in, on it's own power. I helped you guys with information and even told you how to get in with the least amount of effort. During the time that TMO and IB were suspended, I listed to how much you guys hated VD. Random members and officers so on telling me that they realized how shitty VD had become.

Keep becoming what you hated. You've become blind, but I still see clearly.

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it is all about them pixels bro

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Originally Posted by Relapse4 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pretty sure that is Bisch from VD the monk and Vis you don't play on Eqmac yet wtf!!

It is.

[Supaskillz]

The following is true

Former bda in TMO
Former tmo in BDA
Former BDA in TR
Former TR in BDA
Former TR in TMO
Former BDA app in enraptured
Current tmo in enraptured

Acryid and taken and dinvity I know little of your members but I bet you have some people that were once in tmo or bda and vice versa.

Obviously server full of feeder guilds

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Originally Posted by Supaskillz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The following is true

Former bda in TMO
Former tmo in BDA
Former BDA in TR
Former TR in BDA
Former TR in TMO
Former BDA app in enraptured
Current tmo in enraptured

Acryid and taken and dinvity I know little of your members but I bet you have some people that were once in tmo or bda and vice versa.

Obviously server full of feeder guilds

logic has no place here!

[Servellious]

Way to truthful for RnF supa

[Rais]

I just stated a fact. Every time we would lose a target, _some_ IB members would rage and blame it all on vd when a good part of it was members of IB who fucked up. Some would also train our members in zones. It was no secret most of the typical IB members couldn't stand co-raiding with VD. I understand about the guild banner and standing up for their own guild. I can't hold that against them,but when it came to co-raiding and it was thrown around was the problem. And no, I know we had some non end game players in VD that ruined a lot of things and I know VD wasn't perfect during raiding. Trust me, I of all people know this. But to say there was no issues between the guild wouldn't be truthful.

As for the "shaky ground" about the shield, that was awarded to me before I even knew what happened/logged on. Why should it be any business to IB who VD awards loot to, that was the point. The entire rolling thing was always done on the boss fights during that time, so there was no question or choosing what you want and that was the end of it. There were many other times loot was given to people in IB that weren't there at the raid(Trak Bps Banked) or sky drops that were given to IB without any say in the matter from VD(or Cold just passed it off without letting the Raid Leaders/Officers know).

The fact it even strained guild relations to the point you threatened to end the co-raids over it was odd. The fact is I said I didn't even want the shield because of the issue it caused and my own ideals, and wanted the guilds to keep co-raiding. I even pushed hard the entire time during VD times that if you weren't at a raid, you don't get the loot. That alone caused issues within the loot deciders of VD. After the Shield issue is the only time the two guilds came to an agreement other than rolling, and made things fair since we started to field over 70% of the raids most of the time. So in a way it was a good thing it had happened.

I stated a fact about how loot was handled and the issues and comparing it to Enraptured and TMO from a former VD member who had no idea about the inner workings of how just fucked up loot decisions are between two guilds. I'm also aware of the fact that some IB members had no clue that it was Kins and I who started the entire IB/VD co-raiding. There were a handful of IB members who were flat out dickheads, yet I had more friends in IB than VD. As a whole the guild was fine, it was the rotten apples I disliked.

I never had a issue with Perun/Kins or you as raid leaders. It was the others when you all weren't around.

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Every guild has individuals that whose actions speak for their guild when they should really just speak for the quality of character of that individual.

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