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11-18-2011, 11:27 PM
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You think the cops drove past and said 'oh shit look.. it's some college kids.. lets go club them with sticks!'. Clearly not. They are doing a job, you break the law and resist/refuse to comply with the law, police are authorized to use force. You on here crying police brutality like there are 20 insane hyped up cops savagely beating a small child is a stretch from what is in that video. Show me the whole video and not some 2 minute segment designed to show the cops abusing people and then lets talk. | |||
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11-19-2011, 11:54 AM
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Can't wait to see how this is justified..
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11-20-2011, 09:34 AM
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California Penal Code Section 12403.7 (g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment, except that, if the use is against a peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, engaged in the performance of his or her official duties and the person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer, the offense is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment. | |||
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11-19-2011, 01:50 PM
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Apparently you don't get it hasbinbad... they are sitting there expecting it... Great, good for them.. standing up for their cause as foolish as it actually may be... I'm not arguing or debating their cause... that doesn't mean that they aren't breaking the law and that the police are abusing their power...
You seem to have trouble understanding this.. so let me call it out specifically.. peaceful does not equal lawful Is your point that this is again some kind of police brutality? Clearly it's not any kind of excessive force used. The police are charged with breaking up the unlawful gathering using non lethal force (exactly what is shown in the video)... You guys scour the internet to look for anything to actually make you feel justified in the violence and unlawful gatherings that occupy has become... | ||
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11-20-2011, 03:13 PM
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Right. Instead of just arresting the children 1 by 1 - because they knew they were just going to sit there, offering no resistance but to sit there - they used pepper pray, a "less lethal" weapon designed to disperse actively rioting groups of probably dangerous criminals.
That makes perfect sense. I don't know why I didn't see that before. Thank you.
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11-20-2011, 06:19 PM
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Just because they were put on leave doesn't mean they were wrong. That is standard practice in many departments when something controversial takes place.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for people that break the law and continually refuse to comply with notices and requests to comply. In many agencies the standard policy is to use tools like pepper spray when there are large crowds of non-compliant people violating the law...(not just "actively rioting groups of dangerous people") If the campus police that did this don't have such a policy and the campus police acted out of accordance with their rules, then again, shame on them and they can/should be dealt with. I'm not defending their actions or calling them justified in doing so, but I am saying that what is in the video isn't necessarily excessive force nor is it inherently brutal punishment outside of standard police action. I am also saying that the protesters are undoubtedly (peacefully) violating the law and continually refusing to comply. There are peaceful ways to protest and get your point across, if you think unlawful action is the only way, then don't expect a pity party when the consequences come. | ||
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11-20-2011, 06:38 PM
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11-20-2011, 10:05 PM
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In summary, law enforcement isn't bound by utilizing these measure only in the interest of self defense. | |||
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