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[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because he's such a great poster when he's posting well, and such a terrible one when he's not.

DSM is not Ripzoko. He's not trying to troll people (until he gets into "fight mode" at least). He knows the game well (even though he often doubles down hard on the parts he doesn't know), he's smart, and he even makes community contributions (eg. his DPS calculator).

I truly think there's a good person behind that keyboard, and I just get so ****ing frustrated when he choses be disengenuous (to score points with the audience in the imaginary arena in his head) rather than just post like the decent person I suspect he is.

I get frustrated when posters flood the forums with lies when they cannot win a debate with facts and logic. It is disengenuous.

You should be frustrated too. You can also be a good poster when you aren't in this mode where you blame everybody else for your bad behavior.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loramin... fallacies ARE disengenuous. I know you are not dumb enough to pretend that the ad populum fallacy has merit. It is a literal fallacy. Your imaginary metric of "most attacked poster" is just another version of the ad populum fallacy. You are the one being disengenuous here by using a fallacy as an argument.

Stealing a car is illegal. It is the fault of the car thief every time they steal your car.

dis·in·gen·u·ous
/ˌdisənˈjenyəwəs/
adjective
not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does.

You can not tell me that if you heard someone got their car stolen twenty times, you would believe it's 100% twenty independent car thieves' fault. Again, I know you are smarter than that, and it's frustrating when you turn your brain off to argue.

[Samoht]

Are there any fallacies where you pretend you're the victim but in reality you're the aggressor?

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can not tell me that if you heard someone got their car stolen twenty times, you would believe it's 100% twenty independent car thieves' fault. Again, I know you are smarter than that.

I know you would blame me for parking my car in my own town, but I would argue it's what you've done to my town.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can not tell me that if you heard someone got their car stolen twenty times, you would believe it's 100% twenty independent car thieves' fault. Again, I know you are smarter than that.

It is the fault of the car thief every time. Normal people do not look at an unlocked car with the keys in the ignition and decide to steal it. Only crazy people or people in extreme desperation do that.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by shovelquest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would know for a fact it was the policies that (you) voted for and (I) voted against.

I'm assuming that's some sort of (D) vs. (R) comment? But again, you wouldn't/

Look, if everyone you know starts getting their car stolen, that's not their fault: it's a systemic issue (eg. a law politicians passed).

But if most people aren't getting their car stolen, and one person has their's taken twenty times, no one with any intellectual rigor would pretend those twenty have nothing to do with each other.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm assuming that's some sort of (D) vs. (R) comment? But again, you wouldn't/

Look, if everyone you know starts getting their car stolen, that's not their fault: it's a systemic issue (eg. a law politicians passed).

But if most people aren't getting their car stolen, and one person has their's taken twenty times, no one with any intellectual rigor would pretend those twenty have nothing to do with each other.

I will say it again:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is the fault of the car thief every time. Normal people do not look at an unlocked car with the keys in the ignition and decide to steal it. Only crazy people or people in extreme desperation do that.

[shovelquest]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Samoht]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is the fault of the car thief every time. Normal people do not look at an unlocked car with the keys in the ignition and decide to steal it. Only crazy people or people in extreme desparation do that.

This is incorrect. There's a reason Hyundais and Kias are uninsurable in some areas. There is responsibility of the owner to purchase a vehicle that has defense against theft and on the manufacturers to produce cars that aren't so easily stolen.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is the fault of the car thief every time. Normal people do not look at an unlocked car with the keys in the ignition and decide to steal it. Only crazy people or people in extreme desparation do that.

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See, this is why I say you're disengenuous: if you weren't trying to win this fight, you wouldn't try to argue that an outlier in the data isn't an outlier. You're letting your worst angels guide you to posting poorly.

Normal people don't get their car stolen twenty times: that's the entire point!