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Old 11-02-2023, 02:28 PM
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Allowing others to share opinions is dangerous. Silencing opinions is good.
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Old 11-02-2023, 02:28 PM
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If you mean the school gay thing, it also restricts straight white college educated women. Which I'm highly in favor of.
Public school textbooks in Florida can't indicate the existence of white college educated women?

I suppose it could track. Educated women do generally despise reactionary politics, as they are inherently anti-female. Florida probably has the highest per capita population of incels, such as a certain fascist on this very forum.
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Old 11-02-2023, 02:33 PM
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Public school textbooks in Florida can't indicate the existence of white college educated women?

I suppose it could track. Educated women do generally despise reactionary politics, as they are inherently anti-female. Florida probably has the highest per capita population of incels, such as a certain fascist on this very forum.
Curriculum is naturally exclusionary. You could equally complain that astrophysics and alchemy are not in the K-3 programming and be just as right.
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Old 11-02-2023, 02:43 PM
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Curriculum is naturally exclusionary. You could equally complain that astrophysics and alchemy are not in the K-3 programming and be just as right.
Kind of a neutral argument to make, I am not claiming one is more "advanced" than the other. I am claiming that it's censorship, because "Hate Speech" Homeateaded is too dense to perceive his hypocrisy. Why include heterosexual people, but exclude homosexual people?
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Old 11-02-2023, 02:48 PM
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Kind of a neutral argument to make, I am not claiming one is more "advanced" than the other. I am claiming that it's censorship, because "Hate Speech" Homeateaded is too dense to perceive his hypocrisy. Why include heterosexual people, but exclude homosexual people?
I think you're using a novel meaning of existence and am becoming confused.
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Old 11-02-2023, 02:51 PM
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i'd like to ask in good faith, what positions do you hold on modern culture / policy that you believe make you a liberal? that set you apart from someone who would consider themselves a conservative?

you do claim it a lot in your posts, but that often is a sign of someone acting in bad faith/trolling, but i'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt since you have been respectul (to me) on the forums

with that said, i am a very "far lefty" but i actually know how to get along with people for the most part -- probably because i am confident in my beliefs, and i find it a waste of my limited free time to argue with strangers online, or even worse, try to change their minds (although occasionally i am guilty in getting caught up in some garbage)
I appreciate your curiosity. I admire those that display it regardless of political background. If I had to guess you might be old school far lefty compared to the modern Gen Y and Gen Z version, but could be wrong. It's not even clear the venn diagram of those two groups overlap.

The best way to indicate an answer to you is how I vote. Glad Biden won and have been happy with his performance if I'm a bit worried about his age. Went to public school my whole life as well as a public university for college during a particular era so that inculcated a version of history that could only be described as liberal.

Supporter of 2nd wave Feminism. Have some reservations of 3rd wave Feminism. Supporter of Women's right to choose at the national level. Saddened there isn't courage to make this codified into law. I want a world where women can do whatever they like without being told they can't because of their sex.

I doubt conservatives know the distinction between 2nd and 3rd wave feminism.

I'd say that's enough to answer your question without writing a whole selfie political profile. I have written enough on these boards consistently for my political beliefs to be honed in on if you pay attention. I have been attacked from every political stripe on these boards, which is what happens if you are near the liberal middle with the capacity for empathy who wants to maximize the usefulness of Govt to 80% or 90% of people instead of the special interests, anti-bipartisanship, and extreme elites on both sides.

I appreciate your ability to get along and suggest your curiosity is unique amongst those who I have met in real life that call themself far lefty. There has been a shift in my lifetime seemingly in the last 20-25 years where being a far lefty changed from having meant being pro-peace at one point and now it means post-modern ends justify the means anything goes to generate far left only outcomes.

To me these tactics are regressive and I call them out as such. I find those strategies acted out set back the movement of progress by turning those with empathy against it.
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Old 11-02-2023, 03:07 PM
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I think you're using a novel meaning of existence and am becoming confused.
Maybe it was the wrong word. Gay and trans people definitely exist, and always will, despite the efforts of reactionary conservatives. Their efforts to censor them out of the minds of kids will probably have the opposite outcome. Many civilizations did way worse historically and they still yet exist, not that it makes censorship good.

I suspect their culture war bullshit is them overplaying their hand, but I probably won't live long enough to enjoy the vindication of being correct on this one.
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Old 11-02-2023, 03:19 PM
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Maybe it was the wrong word. Gay and trans people definitely exist, and always will, despite the efforts of reactionary conservatives. Their efforts to censor them out of the minds of kids will probably have the opposite outcome. Many civilizations did way worse historically and they still yet exist, not that it makes censorship good.

I suspect their culture war bullshit is them overplaying their hand, but I probably won't live long enough to enjoy the vindication of being correct on this one.
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which is what happens if you are near the liberal middle with the capacity for empathy who wants to maximize the usefulness of Govt to 80% or 90% of people instead of the special interests, anti-bipartisanship, and extreme elites on both sides.
What is special interests? Almost everyone says it's bad but I can't discern what it means.
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Old 11-02-2023, 03:33 PM
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He's like living proof of the concept I have been arguing all along but doesn't seem to be aware of it.

That is, assuming he is actually a "liberal" and not just some forums reactionary I butthurt with my antics.
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Old 11-02-2023, 03:52 PM
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Reading his vague view...

Lot of republicans were for Biden because he wasn't as crazy as Trump. Biden has done a number of things to help republicans too. -
Still No Fault here

Age is moot since both leading candidates have shown cognitive mental concerns.
Still No Fault here

This is concerning ... The so called 3rd wave of feminism believes in transfeminism. Transfeminism is a branch of feminism focused on transgender women and informed by transgender studies. Republicans are crazy against Trans. hmm

For women's rights at the national level makes it sound like you believe abortion should be decided by the state. Another Republican supported idea. (Unless you were worried about their right to vote)

Comment: Women deserve rights on a national and state level on the subject of voting and abortion.

Sure sounds like your politically leaning conservative to me. Especially on some extreme right topics.
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