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View Poll Results: This was pure self defense!
They were coming at him! 18 39.13%
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Old 11-12-2021, 12:47 PM
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There’s a lot more room to argue because Kyle’s actions to decide to put out fires and help people were good, his choice of setting to do them in was not so good

But when we consider self defense, it is possible to legally defend oneself with a gun and still be in the wrong, here’s an example:

I have a gun, I see another guy and decide to antagonize the living shit out of him verbally. I call him a bitch, a piece of shit, any insult I can think of based on his appearance or otherwise

He eventually gets pissed, picks up a rock, says “now you done it, I’m gonna beat the shit outta you”. As he gets close I open fire killing him


In this situation both people are in the wrong. The other person should have let the insults go, words are just words. And the person with a gun is in the wrong for provoking an innocent person into getting himself killed

Does this mean that the self-defense claim should be thrown out? Not sure what happens legally there, but both parties are in the wrong in that scenario
you get reckless endangermentmanslaughtery stuff happening because you did do something wrong but you weren't premeditatiadly just hiding in the bushes shooting ppl big difference, even if you really wanted to kill that person that person still didn't have to attack you and u were still sorta respecting their rights just being a manipulative asshole

definately not murder per the law ish, because ppl go to a place have things happen without any intention at all and get fucking pissed and mad

---- that guy in wesley chappel who killed the guy in the movie theatre for throwing popcorn was pretty fucked up, similar tho and that guy was a cop

there's usually several things that lead up to stuff like that

kyle definately needs therapy and probably shouldn't be allowed to own a gun or join the armed services unless he moves out to the middle of no were and carries only on his property

he's not a terrorist tho, and he's probably not a psychopath jeffery dalhlmer, definately a jerk and callous and immature and 150% not raised right
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Nah I am sure Kyle will go on to do "classy" things that define his character for the rest his life like put the gun up for auction like so many others that got away with killing others in the name of self defense.

These alt right characters usually mess up again in life. Karma


Gun that killed Trayvon Martin 'makes $250000 for Zimmerman'
https://www.bbc.com › world-us-canada-36354206
May 22, 2016 — The handgun used to kill unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012 has been sold for $250,000 (£172,000), US media say.

George Zimmerman auction for gun that killed Trayvon Martin ...
https://www.cnn.com › 2016/05/18 › george-zimmerman-...
May 18, 2016 — George Zimmerman's auction for the gun that killed Trayvon Martin ended Tuesday, with the final bidder possibly offering to pay $138,900 for ...

Bids in George Zimmerman gun auction up to $65M - USA ...
https://www.usatoday.com › news › nation › 2016/05/13
May 13, 2016 — Bidding in an online auction for the gun George Zimmerman used to kill Trayvon Martin was up to $65 million Friday morning as Internet ...
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Old 11-12-2021, 12:52 PM
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The judge is bias you can trip and fall on how many media sources are reporting the numerous mentions I have already shared in this thread.
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Old 11-12-2021, 12:53 PM
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Nah I am sure Kyle will go on to do "classy" things that define his character for the rest his life like put the gun up for auction like so many others that got away with killing others in the name of self defense.

These alt right characters usually mess up again in life. Karma


Gun that killed Trayvon Martin 'makes $250000 for Zimmerman'
https://www.bbc.com › world-us-canada-36354206
May 22, 2016 — The handgun used to kill unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in 2012 has been sold for $250,000 (£172,000), US media say.

George Zimmerman auction for gun that killed Trayvon Martin ...
https://www.cnn.com › 2016/05/18 › george-zimmerman-...
May 18, 2016 — George Zimmerman's auction for the gun that killed Trayvon Martin ended Tuesday, with the final bidder possibly offering to pay $138,900 for ...

Bids in George Zimmerman gun auction up to $65M - USA ...
https://www.usatoday.com › news › nation › 2016/05/13
May 13, 2016 — Bidding in an online auction for the gun George Zimmerman used to kill Trayvon Martin was up to $65 million Friday morning as Internet ...
that is a major problem with our society

no sane or reasonable person would spend $65 million on a gun like that imo and that we condone it and don't put these people in mental institutions or check out their brain chemistry under disection suprises me (thats Mikahail gods avenging wrath speaking) - totlally nnot christian or good in anyway
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Old 11-12-2021, 12:54 PM
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ya no offense but cnn has lost all integrity with me

so has Nytimes

as much as they are 'woke' fuck em, they propogandize and spin
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Old 11-12-2021, 01:03 PM
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There’s a lot more room to argue because Kyle’s actions to decide to put out fires and help people were good, his choice of setting to do them in was not so good

But when we consider self defense, it is possible to legally defend oneself with a gun and still be in the wrong, here’s an example:

I have a gun, I see another guy and decide to antagonize the living shit out of him verbally. I call him a bitch, a piece of shit, any insult I can think of based on his appearance or otherwise

He eventually gets pissed, picks up a rock, says “now you done it, I’m gonna beat the shit outta you”. As he gets close I open fire killing him


In this situation both people are in the wrong. The other person should have let the insults go, words are just words. And the person with a gun is in the wrong for provoking an innocent person into getting himself killed

Does this mean that the self-defense claim should be thrown out? Not sure what happens legally there, but both parties are in the wrong in that scenario
yeah the problem here is even if you think Kyle was in the wrong because he brought a gun to a riot, you have to consider one of the guys he shot also illegally brought a gun to a riot, and that guy stands to make 10 million dollars if Kyle is convicted.

Makes no sense. Punishment would be irrelevant because there was a grand reward for the same crime.
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Old 11-12-2021, 01:07 PM
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ya no offense but cnn has lost all integrity with me

so has Nytimes

as much as they are 'woke' fuck em, they propogandize and spin
They are corperate overlords. Very smart people are like, "they are experts and trying to bring free dialogue to the people"

CNN: "Social media should be illegal"

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Old 11-12-2021, 01:07 PM
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yeah the problem here is even if you think Kyle was in the wrong because he brought a gun to a riot, you have to consider one of the guys he shot also illegally brought a gun to a riot, and that guy stands to make 10 million dollars if Kyle is convicted.

Makes no sense. Punishment would be irrelevant because there was a grand reward for the same crime.
Which is why you shouldn't go near protests, ESPECIALLY as it gets later on at night and only the disreputable people remain

These are likely already significantly low IQ people, who's low IQ is lowered even more by being part of a mob and sinking into mob mentality. These are people who will feel encouraged to attack you due to a perceived strength in numbers advantage

I'm not saying them being trash morons means they deserve to die. It does mean that if you plan to go near those people with a gun, then you need to realize that you WILL be killing other human beings that night, and be ready for the moral and legal consequences for that
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Old 11-12-2021, 01:08 PM
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Which is why you shouldn't go near protests, ESPECIALLY as it gets later on at night and only the disreputable people remain

These are likely already significantly low IQ people, who's low IQ is lowered even more by being part of a mob and sinking into mob mentality. These are people who will feel encouraged to attack you due to a perceived strength in numbers advantage

I'm not saying them being trash morons means they deserve to die. It does mean that if you plan to go near those people with a gun, then you need to realize that you WILL be killing other human beings that night, and be ready for the moral and legal consequences for that
Protests should stop at sunset, like they did on January 6th.
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Old 11-12-2021, 01:08 PM
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that is a major problem with our society

no sane or reasonable person would spend $65 million on a gun like that imo and that we condone it and don't put these people in mental institutions or check out their brain chemistry under disection suprises me (thats Mikahail gods avenging wrath speaking) - totlally nnot christian or good in anyway
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