If Free-Speech falls, we're in trouble

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

amazon =/= facebook/twitter

facebook twitter is hardly even = to news.

It's more like facebook twitter = p99 forums

Amazon is a digital retailer.

It is just stupid to think (categorically STUPID) that facebook, or twitter owns some sort of monopoly on something.

You may as well be upset and think the goverment should force FOX News let me do a report on their TV station, on the economy, or penguins, or whatever the f I feel like talking about, whenever I feel like talking about it.

So think about any competitors who have sprung up in the last 5 years that challenge any aspect of Facebook/Twitters business. They just buy them out or get them kicked off hosting services/delisted. This is exactly what the robber barons did. It’s really not that complicated.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by FatherSioux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So think about any competitors who have sprung up in the last 5 years that challenge any aspect of Facebook/Twitters business. They just buy them out or get them kicked off hosting services/delisted. This is exactly what the robber barons did. It’s really not that complicated.

What do social media competitors offer that facebook doesn't offer? A different color scheme?

I bet you thought Myspace had a monopoly too.

The reason there is no competition is because competition in that market is driven by 1 thing, the creators desire to compete with them. Otherwise you'd be cloning the exact same product and putting a different label on it, thats it. That's why there are no other social media platforms outside of CHINA duh.

The only reason you'd compete building a new social media platform, would be if you had some AMAZING idea about what one should be, and if it was an amazing idea, great.

BUT THEN to make your argument even more stupid now you're saying, if you want to sell your amazing idea to facebook, you shouldn't even be allowed to??? LOL

Again, more commie nonsense, is the only way to defend any of your statements.

[Byue]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do social media competitors offer that facebook doesn't offer? A different color scheme?

Different end user agreement, the understanding that your data is yours, different algorithms not based on plugging people who have things to sell to you but connecting content creators together.

I could also add that the competition in this industry is largely based on the number of users you have.

Facebook wouldn't be facebook with 1 million user.
Ello is great but it doesn't have the number facebook pulls so you stay on facebook to also connect with the people only using facebook.

I mean, this is a narrow conception of what social media is and what it should do and no, they are not all facebook clone the very same way not all mmo are EverQuest clones or wow clones and they usually offer something specific to garner their audience.

[FatherSioux]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BUT THEN to make your argument even more stupid now you're saying, if you want to sell your amazing idea to facebook, you shouldn't even be allowed to??? LOL

Again, more commie nonsense, is the only way to defend any of your statements.

You mean like Instagram?

Oh right it's a "free market" when you have a company(FB) who can pay IG for 1B and then 6 years later it's worth over 100B? Like of course they can just buy companies out who even remotely sniff as being a competitor. Snapchat is dying because they refused to sell to FB...surely that's all above board.

I love that on this forum I can be called a commie and a nazi by nazis and commies.

[Byue]

people are like big tech have too much power!


Sorry capitalism took away all your public spaces and leave us with private companies offering us a place to speak freely under their watch light.

You still do not understand what free speech is.
And how it is not at all under attack because you didn't bother to check what free speech laws are about.

Be mad at capitalism for making your life miserable enough that you are upset a private company has the right to kick you out of their platforms.

Just so you know, they can also kick you out of their physical stores, too.
If you want to be a nazi and not deal with the social backlash, talk with your nazi friends otherwise we are collectively concerned about you being a nazi.

because the education level is very low in America, I will make it obvious, the you is proverbial and doesn't mean YOU.

Like if you think you are free go somewhere without money.

[Byue]

and a side note, you guys talk about section 230 as a way to save free speech.

Literally, without that section, I could come on these forums.

say some nazi bullshit and if the comments aren't taken down, I can sue the company so obviously, my comments will be regulated and then what, you saved free speech?

[Seducio]

Everyday there is another idiot on the internet throwing the word Nazi around.

You aren't helping.

It's 2021. Where are the fucking Nazis?

If you are from Canada then your country helped our county fuck up the Nazis. That was 76 fucking years ago.

If you are calling someone a Nazi in 2021 then you are ideologically possessed and simply not thinking for yourself.

Here is a challenge for you:

Steelman the viewpoint that you are about to critique before you do it. You may actually learn something by trying to figure out what other people are saying before you say stupid shit on the internet and label other people Nazis 76s years after they were fucked up.

Look up what it means to steelman a viewpoint.

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyday there is another idiot on the internet throwing the word Nazi around.

You aren't helping.

It's 2021. Where are the fucking Nazis?

If you are from Canada then your country helped our county fuck up the Nazis. That was 76 fucking years ago.

If you are calling someone a Nazi in 2021 then you are ideologically possessed and simply not thinking for yourself.

Here is a challenge for you:

Steelman the viewpoint that you are about to critique before you do it. You may actually learn something by trying to figure out what other people are saying before you say stupid shit on the internet and label other people Nazis 76s years after they were fucked up.

Look up what it means to steelman a viewpoint.

wat if they are a Nazi, though? for instance Hitler

[HalflingSpergand]

What defines a nazi because since i am one i need to know

[Cassawary]

Originally Posted by HalflingSpergand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What defines a nazi because since i am one i need to know

nazis aren't funny, ya shmeckle