Our neighbor Detoxx, or is it, Mr. Toxxic?

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was talking to errrbody.

Literally no reason shit from last year or year before or year before should have any meaning to what we decide in the present. Its stupid and has no place in Everquest.

Until the roles are flipped. You should be begging me to take a deal, not calling me an asshole and refusing to talk.

My doors always open, babe. Come on in!

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eratani I think Detoxx's (very good) point is that Awakened leadership has been screwing Aftermath on lawyerquesting for months and years and getting away with it somehow, and now that there is a smoking gun because you guys couldn't help yourselves out of the need to salvage a week, it's time to pay the piper.

As somebody who was an officer and very close to dozens of headscratchers where you and Breaken got away with murder, I find it pretty funny that you're on here resorting to the "that was then, this is now" card. Time to die buddy.

Lol everyone of them lives in the past.

Okay, name 8 things we got away with.

[branamil]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, i clicked back one page. Eratani is one of the nicest people I've ever met through video games. Detoxx is a tranny and his parents don't love him. I don't think career Everquest player looks good on a resume.

Can't ruin your resume if you're unemployed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, name 8 things we got away with.

this is a bad argument

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this is a bad argument

You are not the real ghost of Anakin.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are not the real ghost of Anakin.

anakin was a movie ghost. he was never real.

[Pint]

P99 raid scene gotta be the only environment so fucked up that you would look at your available options and decide you agreed with the guy named detoxx.

[Teako]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who are you again?

I was one of the four people in the conversation where we agreed that officers would not be present or part of the guild meetings for any reason period. We agreed they would be 4 normal guildmates that nobody could know. But, you conned us real good. Since we didn't get it typed out in writing that it couldn't be officers, and we weren't to have anything to do with it -- you immediately appointed Stikkerz as one of yours.. and then pressured the shit out of him constantly for instant results.

I was there, and was sent screenshots of your officers openly requesting people train wyverns on to live engages in guild chat. Want some? Your guildmates have frapses uploaded with audio of multiple officers saying, "Drop wyverns on them. Do not let them get it (vulak) to hub." MULTIPLE times over the last year.

I was there when you created a player-council system to address issues, and then immediately flaked on and refused to adhere to it the first time it was going to cost you 4 vulaks after you intentionally dumped an Eashen on our face at zone in to wipe us, and then conceded Eashen while having a pre-set up team to pull/engage Vulak.. which you refused to concede Vulak. You lost both, by the way, despite cheating.

I was there when we made an agreement for statue, and you immediately began utilizing a feeder guild to contest OUR half of the agreement while restricting them from contesting your half of it "or else"... And when we cut that agreement because you were double-dipping you dropped them to the wayside as if they had never carried your weight.

I was there when your leaders openly asked someone to train us on Vulak, had a guildmate log in to an AM tagged toon from years prior, train us deliberately AND THEN TRIED TO BLAME US FOR IT. Something so unbelievable that server staff didn't even know how to appropriately respond to that level of hideous under-handed tactic.

I was there when your guild openly/willingly utilized alt tab jumping despite being warned to stop by GMs to acquire hundreds of FTE's illegally, but your leadership promoted it because "there's no way they can prove it" - ALL of Aftermath was informed they would be removed if they alt tab jumped.. Why is it your leadership PROMOTED doing it?

I was there when your guild was spam dispelling our pets at AoW and instantly re-charming them with strings to steal our dogs/giants for your guild.. despite you not having gotten the statue FTE.

I was there when your guild came up with the strategy to repeatedly over-agro our pullers on Doze / Statue, pull them in the opposite direction with feign death, and force them to leash. Remember that Doze that your OFFICER put 5 mallets in, 3 slowstones, and more during our FTE? Then ran it the entire way to ToV west exit while you insisted we were kiting it to west? Yeah.

OH, OH, remember that time you petitioned us for lulling Vyemm through the wall despite both guilds having done it for months?

Man, we could even bring up that time you helped CSG petition us for not giving them a timer, because your numbers were shakey and you, quote, "need a week or two of kills so people keep logging in"

Remember the MULTIPLE times I came to you in the past and said, "Hey dude you're about to eat shit on this petition situation.. We have a clear as day fraps of your monk Kamayamaya training us at entrance on vulak.. on purpose" - and you said, quote, "I'm fine with rolling the dice on letting staff decide." to me?

Remember that time you had a veteran guildmate deliberately leash your own vulak willingly, petitioned it, and clipped a whole bunch of video scraps together to convince server staff it was our fault that Vulak was chasing Kelzaraz around in NTOV?

There's no fucking telling how many other underhanded shady bullshit moves that got brushed aside or under the rug over the years.. But one thing has consistently stayed true: Awakened is willing to lie, cheat, train, manipulate, use, and abuse any/everything they possibly can if it means killing Dozekar and Vulak.

You know dude, I genuinely tried to work with you a lot of times.. But frankly, ya'll are incredibly corrupt and are willing to cheat at any/every single solitary instance possible to get ahead. Cloki nailed it, you weigh the risks of being caught cheating to the rewards of cheating. You need to be consistently reminded that cheating first, conceding later is not an acceptable stance on this server. I remember multiple instances of getting tells from AW members saying that AW leadership was supporting/promoting people log off on Dagarn ledge because "we couldn't prove it". I was there when AW utilized the strategy to deliberately dump mobs on our FTE racers.

Also, it doesn't matter what Sedativex died to. You can't kill our entire pull team at the point that aggro would be transferred and leverage that to your advantage. That's called raid disruption, and training. I don't know why Awakened is trying to cling to this "OMG SHOW HIS FRAPS" notion.. His fraps is totally irrelevant. Even if he died jumping into the lava wearing flip flops and singing campfire songs -- you can not train the entire pull squad of our guild at the point of agro transfer. It is against the rules, period. Not "Well, if we spin it this way.." nah dude, sorry, your guys trained the shit out of our pull team and now you're shitting bricks.


Here's a foot note for you: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=269930

We trained three non-raiding inactive players that were not competing, and ate 10 days.. You deliberately trained a puller WITH LIVE FTE, 5 monks, and 1 necro on a live engage at the bottlenecked point that would guarantee our death. You successfully, mind you, managed to annihilate our entire pull team while an officer sat feigned with an idol ready to pick it up after it smoked our puller.

You're afraid of your underhanded guild dying over another 40 day suspension? Here's a great fucking suggestion: Quit cheating.

[icedwards]

Originally Posted by Teako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was one of the four people in the conversation where we agreed that officers would not be present or part of the guild meetings for any reason period. We agreed they would be 4 normal guildmates that nobody could know. But, you conned us real good. Since we didn't get it typed out in writing that it couldn't be officers, and we weren't to have anything to do with it -- you immediately appointed Stikkerz as one of yours.. and then pressured the shit out of him constantly for instant results.

I was there, and was sent screenshots of your officers openly requesting people train wyverns on to live engages in guild chat. Want some? Your guildmates have frapses uploaded with audio of multiple officers saying, "Drop wyverns on them. Do not let them get it (vulak) to hub." MULTIPLE times over the last year.

I was there when you created a player-council system to address issues, and then immediately flaked on and refused to adhere to it the first time it was going to cost you 4 vulaks after you intentionally dumped an Eashen on our face at zone in to wipe us, and then conceded Eashen while having a pre-set up team to pull/engage Vulak.. which you refused to concede Vulak. You lost both, by the way, despite cheating.

I was there when we made an agreement for statue, and you immediately began utilizing a feeder guild to contest OUR half of the agreement while restricting them from contesting your half of it "or else"... And when we cut that agreement because you were double-dipping you dropped them to the wayside as if they had never carried your weight.

I was there when your leaders openly asked someone to train us on Vulak, had a guildmate log in to an AM tagged toon from years prior, train us deliberately AND THEN TRIED TO BLAME US FOR IT. Something so unbelievable that server staff didn't even know how to appropriately respond to that level of hideous under-handed tactic.

I was there when your guild openly/willingly utilized alt tab jumping despite being warned to stop by GMs to acquire hundreds of FTE's illegally, but your leadership promoted it because "there's no way they can prove it" - ALL of Aftermath was informed they would be removed if they alt tab jumped.. Why is it your leadership PROMOTED doing it?

I was there when your guild was spam dispelling our pets at AoW and instantly re-charming them with strings to steal our dogs/giants for your guild.. despite you not having gotten the statue FTE.

I was there when your guild came up with the strategy to repeatedly over-agro our pullers on Doze / Statue, pull them in the opposite direction with feign death, and force them to leash. Remember that Doze that your OFFICER put 5 mallets in, 3 slowstones, and more during our FTE? Then ran it the entire way to ToV west exit while you insisted we were kiting it to west? Yeah.

OH, OH, remember that time you petitioned us for lulling Vyemm through the wall despite both guilds having done it for months?

Man, we could even bring up that time you helped CSG petition us for not giving them a timer, because your numbers were shakey and you, quote, "need a week or two of kills so people keep logging in"

Remember the MULTIPLE times I came to you in the past and said, "Hey dude you're about to eat shit on this petition situation.. We have a clear as day fraps of your monk Kamayamaya training us at entrance on vulak.. on purpose" - and you said, quote, "I'm fine with rolling the dice on letting staff decide." to me?

Remember that time you had a veteran guildmate deliberately leash your own vulak willingly, petitioned it, and clipped a whole bunch of video scraps together to convince server staff it was our fault that Vulak was chasing Kelzaraz around in NTOV?

There's no fucking telling how many other underhanded shady bullshit moves that got brushed aside or under the rug over the years.. But one thing has consistently stayed true: Awakened is willing to lie, cheat, train, manipulate, use, and abuse any/everything they possibly can if it means killing Dozekar and Vulak.

You know dude, I genuinely tried to work with you a lot of times.. But frankly, ya'll are incredibly corrupt and are willing to cheat at any/every single solitary instance possible to get ahead. Cloki nailed it, you weigh the risks of being caught cheating to the rewards of cheating. You need to be consistently reminded that cheating first, conceding later is not an acceptable stance on this server. I remember multiple instances of getting tells from AW members saying that AW leadership was supporting/promoting people log off on Dagarn ledge because "we couldn't prove it". I was there when AW utilized the strategy to deliberately dump mobs on our FTE racers.

Also, it doesn't matter what Sedativex died to. You can't kill our entire pull team at the point that aggro would be transferred and leverage that to your advantage. That's called raid disruption, and training. I don't know why Awakened is trying to cling to this "OMG SHOW HIS FRAPS" notion.. His fraps is totally irrelevant. Even if he died jumping into the lava wearing flip flops and singing campfire songs -- you can not train the entire pull squad of our guild at the point of agro transfer. It is against the rules, period. Not "Well, if we spin it this way.." nah dude, sorry, your guys trained the shit out of our pull team and now you're shitting bricks.


Here's a foot note for you: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=269930

We trained three non-raiding inactive players that were not competing, and ate 10 days.. You deliberately trained a puller WITH LIVE FTE, 5 monks, and 1 necro on a live engage at the bottlenecked point that would guarantee our death. You successfully, mind you, managed to annihilate our entire pull team while an officer sat feigned with an idol ready to pick it up after it smoked our puller.

You're afraid of your underhanded guild dying over another 40 day suspension? Here's a great fucking suggestion: Quit cheating.

Sedyt, everyone...

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by Teako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was one of the four people in the conversation where we agreed that officers would not be present or part of the guild meetings for any reason period. We agreed they would be 4 normal guildmates that nobody could know. But, you conned us real good. Since we didn't get it typed out in writing that it couldn't be officers, and we weren't to have anything to do with it -- you immediately appointed Stikkerz as one of yours.. and then pressured the shit out of him constantly for instant results.

I was there, and was sent screenshots of your officers openly requesting people train wyverns on to live engages in guild chat. Want some? Your guildmates have frapses uploaded with audio of multiple officers saying, "Drop wyverns on them. Do not let them get it (vulak) to hub." MULTIPLE times over the last year.

I was there when you created a player-council system to address issues, and then immediately flaked on and refused to adhere to it the first time it was going to cost you 4 vulaks after you intentionally dumped an Eashen on our face at zone in to wipe us, and then conceded Eashen while having a pre-set up team to pull/engage Vulak.. which you refused to concede Vulak. You lost both, by the way, despite cheating.

I was there when we made an agreement for statue, and you immediately began utilizing a feeder guild to contest OUR half of the agreement while restricting them from contesting your half of it "or else"... And when we cut that agreement because you were double-dipping you dropped them to the wayside as if they had never carried your weight.

I was there when your leaders openly asked someone to train us on Vulak, had a guildmate log in to an AM tagged toon from years prior, train us deliberately AND THEN TRIED TO BLAME US FOR IT. Something so unbelievable that server staff didn't even know how to appropriately respond to that level of hideous under-handed tactic.

I was there when your guild openly/willingly utilized alt tab jumping despite being warned to stop by GMs to acquire hundreds of FTE's illegally, but your leadership promoted it because "there's no way they can prove it" - ALL of Aftermath was informed they would be removed if they alt tab jumped.. Why is it your leadership PROMOTED doing it?

I was there when your guild was spam dispelling our pets at AoW and instantly re-charming them with strings to steal our dogs/giants for your guild.. despite you not having gotten the statue FTE.

I was there when your guild came up with the strategy to repeatedly over-agro our pullers on Doze / Statue, pull them in the opposite direction with feign death, and force them to leash. Remember that Doze that your OFFICER put 5 mallets in, 3 slowstones, and more during our FTE? Then ran it the entire way to ToV west exit while you insisted we were kiting it to west? Yeah.

OH, OH, remember that time you petitioned us for lulling Vyemm through the wall despite both guilds having done it for months?

Man, we could even bring up that time you helped CSG petition us for not giving them a timer, because your numbers were shakey and you, quote, "need a week or two of kills so people keep logging in"

Remember the MULTIPLE times I came to you in the past and said, "Hey dude you're about to eat shit on this petition situation.. We have a clear as day fraps of your monk Kamayamaya training us at entrance on vulak.. on purpose" - and you said, quote, "I'm fine with rolling the dice on letting staff decide." to me?

Remember that time you had a veteran guildmate deliberately leash your own vulak willingly, petitioned it, and clipped a whole bunch of video scraps together to convince server staff it was our fault that Vulak was chasing Kelzaraz around in NTOV?

There's no fucking telling how many other underhanded shady bullshit moves that got brushed aside or under the rug over the years.. But one thing has consistently stayed true: Awakened is willing to lie, cheat, train, manipulate, use, and abuse any/everything they possibly can if it means killing Dozekar and Vulak.

You know dude, I genuinely tried to work with you a lot of times.. But frankly, ya'll are incredibly corrupt and are willing to cheat at any/every single solitary instance possible to get ahead. Cloki nailed it, you weigh the risks of being caught cheating to the rewards of cheating. You need to be consistently reminded that cheating first, conceding later is not an acceptable stance on this server. I remember multiple instances of getting tells from AW members saying that AW leadership was supporting/promoting people log off on Dagarn ledge because "we couldn't prove it". I was there when AW utilized the strategy to deliberately dump mobs on our FTE racers.

Also, it doesn't matter what Sedativex died to. You can't kill our entire pull team at the point that aggro would be transferred and leverage that to your advantage. That's called raid disruption, and training. I don't know why Awakened is trying to cling to this "OMG SHOW HIS FRAPS" notion.. His fraps is totally irrelevant. Even if he died jumping into the lava wearing flip flops and singing campfire songs -- you can not train the entire pull squad of our guild at the point of agro transfer. It is against the rules, period. Not "Well, if we spin it this way.." nah dude, sorry, your guys trained the shit out of our pull team and now you're shitting bricks.


Here's a foot note for you: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=269930

We trained three non-raiding inactive players that were not competing, and ate 10 days.. You deliberately trained a puller WITH LIVE FTE, 5 monks, and 1 necro on a live engage at the bottlenecked point that would guarantee our death. You successfully, mind you, managed to annihilate our entire pull team while an officer sat feigned with an idol ready to pick it up after it smoked our puller.

You're afraid of your underhanded guild dying over another 40 day suspension? Here's a great fucking suggestion: Quit cheating.

I remember the time this was a Velious locked elf server and you cared WAY too fucking much.