Variance

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sorry that your guild sucks at pvp

If killing more people in 15v50 is sucking in pvp, sign me the fuck up I wanna suck all day!

[Glenzig]

I think that they should just increase level cap for Azrael players to 65 and keep them hardcoded in pvp range to all Holo members. Only Azrael. Cause refusing/failing to recruit and have enough numbers to successfully pvp and down raid mobs is totally not their fault. Please devs. This would increase pvp and server pop by 400%. Its the only way!

[Nirgon]

15v50 against people with full buffs when we had zero buffs, were just loading in, enemy rogue poisons ready to go and almost every enemy is skeleton form. Ends up being touted as some kind of old fashioned war where both sides line up and agree first to engage.

Many jump to avoid YT rather than spending more time juking around to buy their pals time to do work.

Somewhere I believe BK said something about people being YT averse and a coward today... yet we ported up knowing full well the first person to load would get instagibbed and more would die... heh..

If you're willing to count things like this as winning the server, act more like it? Just enjoy it and be happy? You seem collectively angry and seeking sweeping changes, seriously contradicting your notion of being a top guild that is very happy with how things are going for them.

Also, might I suggest changing your definition of victory and recruitment "standards" before gear starts dropping that greatly changes the playing field? Like.. for example we think Novus is hard to kill now but imagine just trying to break down people in BIS gear... 1 monk is going to be like killing 3 Novuses :P

[Pikrib]

Hrm, did you kill Hoskar 10-15 times on blue then?

[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hrm, did you kill Hoskar 10-15 times on blue then?

probably and a few times back on live, but vp wasn't a big deal back then as we were doing it right as velious came out. would I like to kill hoshkar on red? sure, but it's not some crowning achievement lol.

[MavstabYoudead]

point is you wouldn't have ported up with similar #s or not knowing what we had up there if you didn't know your overwhelming #s would win the battle, would you?

we zoned similar #s into PoF to pvp you guys yesterday and you call camped/gated.

[Colgate]

real shame that azrael can't kill hoshkar nor have they ever

[MavstabYoudead]

we could kill hoshkar but would take time we don't have with our roster to get prepared. we don't have/want 300 members to be able to call 60 people online at any moment.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by MavstabYoudead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we could kill hoshkar but would take time we don't have with our roster to get prepared. we don't have/want 300 members to be able to call 60 people online at any moment.

Then you definitely dont want variance. That is exactly what you will be required to do with variance. That is the whole point of variance.

[Colgate]

azrael couldn't kill hoshkar when we had 35 people in there using the shaman slow exploit

also i thought azrael could kill everything with 20 people???