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[Grimfan]

Originally Posted by PixelPackage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Brad payed each dev 10k for 50 days of work.

The devs complaining are money hungry assholes.

Pras Brad

If that is true, then they got paid pretty well for their part in things.

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by PixelPackage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He also flew 10 people out to san diego and fed/sheltered them.

That is not cheap either.

Whiny ass babies. Developers are replaceable

I was most impressed with the lore and concept art teams. From the rest of the work I've seen, everyone else could easily be replaced with newbies out of college/training.

[Grimfan]

Originally Posted by PixelPackage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

160k is not a lot of money.

After paying taxes and handing out whatever he did to his team (who accomplished next to nothing and barely deserved whatever pay they did recieve) I doubt he was left with much at all... MAYBE 60k. Maybe.

So you guessed he paid them 10k each, you're not really sure what he paid them. I believe one of them said he didn't pay them enough to pay their mortgage and bills. For me living in a pretty nice house that's about 2200$ a month if you only include internet/gas/electric/mortgage, phone is another 400 or so. I live in Texas though, and my house was only 220k, but I imagine these dudes do not live in much better.

If he wasn't paying them enough to live on, then I'm unsure what he did with the 160k.

[thefloydian]

The devs come out against Brad, followed by a pathetic attempt at damage control: http://173.193.205.96:2197/ondemand/...017%202014.mp3

[thefloydian]

Originally Posted by PixelPackage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

devs shooting themselves in the foot.

If you want a stable paycheck, don't work for a startup.
If you don't want to work for Brad, then don't work for Brad.

Instead we have some toxic devs crying about how they don't like Brad and sticking around to eat his table scraps.

Yeah, the whole thing is an embarrassment. I'm sure Brad deserves most of the blame, but these guys got pretty much nothing done over the course of at least 2 or 3 months.

[Frug]

Originally Posted by PixelPackage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

devs shooting themselves in the foot.

If you want a stable paycheck, don't work for a startup.
If you don't want to work for Brad, then don't work for Brad.

Instead we have some toxic devs crying about how they don't like Brad and sticking around to eat his table scraps.

I'm a developer (though not for gaming) and although your fungibility argument is popular with management types and generally not true, this bit is on the money.

[Leeyuuduu]

Originally Posted by Grimfan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe one of them said he didn't pay them enough to pay their mortgage and bills. For me living in a pretty nice house that's about 2200$ a month if you only include internet/gas/electric/mortgage, phone is another 400 or so. I live in Texas though, and my house was only 220k, but I imagine these dudes do not live in much better.

If he wasn't paying them enough to live on, then I'm unsure what he did with the 160k.

I need money to pay my mortgage and bills..so I'm going to hop on a kickstarter where they promise me backpay!

What are people thinking??[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Grimfan]

Originally Posted by Leeyuuduu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I need money to pay my mortgage and bills..so I'm going to hop on a kickstarter where they promise me backpay!

What are people thinking??[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm guessing he wasn't banking on the back-pay being much at all. A lot of people (especially writers like myself) would love to be on staff to make a MMO regardless of how much you're being paid if the project is real. The issue is that it sounds like the project was kind of vaporware to me. :/

[thefloydian]

Salim came on KTAM tonight and said Brad paid himself a crazy salary and killed the project.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by thefloydian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Salim came on KTAM tonight and said Brad paid himself a crazy salary and killed the project.

LOL gg