Duration of Shared Grp XP Penalties

[Palemoon]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Subscriptions were on the rise in eq before it was removed, and population on P99 has taken rises and dips consistent with content release timing and other games hitting the market. The experience penalty was in when the server hit 1500 at Kunark release. It's a nearly insignificant factor on population. The experience penalty has had no statistical correlation on subscriptions on live or player population on P99.

I said effects groups and subs, not that overall subs were going down. I remember sitting in seb on my troll SK waiting for groups to decide if they wanted to deal with my xp penalty, or not. Back in classic.

I'm sure Im not the only one who took a break and bitched about it in feedback/forums when it all dawned on us at that time what was going on.

Then it was changed.

My point is , we are at the point in the timeline where "its all dawned on us" and it effects groups (and "subs"). I see this everyday in game, the snide comments from group members, how they are "doing me a favor" etc. Not asking for a lifting of the penalty , just that we (hybrids) carry it alone, so it dosent distrupt the social aspect of the game for us (grouping).

[Baervan]

Originally I disliked the way the exp penalty for hybrids was done, (40%, no sharing with group) but I came around to the idea. I makes sense in a role playing kinda way - your class has the difficulty of mastering two professions and so levels up slower, fair enough.

However I have always loathed the way the penalties are now shared with the group. EQ for me is about grouping up with people and sharing the penalty goes a significant way to making this more unpleasant. Frequently groups will turn your class down. Other times you will get an invite but have to deal with mealy mouthed comments about the exp rate. Even in groups of friends that welcome you I feel a underlying guilt that I am holding them back. It is crazy that you essentially have to ask your friends to take a hit just to play the game together.

I can't accept the counter argument that hybrids allow groups to perform better and therefore warant the penalty. I think this argument could only be valid if it was true in the majority of cases. As anyone has played with a good bard will know, they can add a lot - and it is certainly interesting to debate what is better, an enchanter or a bard. But I don't think it can reaonably be claimed that what they can offer is so superior to an enchanter as to justify the penalty. And as for rangers (my chosen class) then well....lol

[Palemoon]

gonna edit this out to remove names.

Lets just say I was rejected recently from an xp group on account of the xp penalty i'd bring to the group. Recently as in within the last 30 mins. Its swell.

[Fazlazen]

Never had trouble finding groups as an iksar SK.

[Grizzled]

I guess I will add this because I dont think i made it clear. I get groups. I may be LFG a few hours but i do get em. And after a few session with a bard or ranger, I have just come to the conclusion if there is another hybrid , its really not worth it. I chose my penalty, and the amount of exp i need to level should be adjusted accordingly. But when i get my penalty AND someone elses penalty, it really becomes an unfruitfull experience. You can say well you and the ranger/bard are both sharing so you dont really lose anything, the exp loss from adding another hybrid tells the tale( see my previous post). Exp penalties are the way they are, i cannot help that. So I have been doing aspects of the game i never cared about on live, faction. I mean after all I have till Luclin comes out to get to 60, IF the devs ever decide to brave yet another expansion in the saga.

As for what hybrids bring to groups....
1) after 7 years on live as a bard I am bard biased. However, an Enchanter who actually puts effort into grouping out shines them.
2) ranger- I would rather have a rogue
3) SK/PAL- Warriors are great for raid tanks, a well equipped on is great in a group. however the are not the agro machines the SK/PAL are.

I guess im just in a different suit now. On live i was a bard, and even in the 50's if i couldn't get a group I would find something to swarm.Light blues suck for exp till you kill 30 at a time with some blues mixed in. I guess its just a side of the hybrids I never really saw.

[Baervan]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Beovvulf is a known retard. Form your own groups.

spooky....