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Old 08-16-2022, 04:04 PM
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Genuinely curious what authoritarian policies the Republicans are promoting? You talking abortion with the roe vs wade shit? That one I can kinda agree with you on if so even tho I'm against abortion personally. Government shouldn't be involved.
Roe v Wade was very authoritarian in that the 1973 ruling ordered the federal government to restrict the states(Constitutionally - "the People") from making laws against it.

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Old 08-16-2022, 04:11 PM
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So you’re leaning to the Republican side because of the opinions of a single congresswoman?

I’m talking about over 75% of the GOP advocating for fascism and repeating bold faced lies to its base. People who commit violence and actively attempt to subvert our elections all while pointing the finger at the other side. But you’re right to believe what you want.
My mistake. I was under the impression gop was republican and aoc is Democrat. Looks like aoc just happens to be a congresswoman that's hardcore dem.

75% you think? What fascism policies and beliefs are they about that concern you? What lies are they spreading that concern you? Because the only fascists or liars that I see are dems trying to strip our American rights and freedoms away under the guise of "safety". There hasn't been any policies, outside of the abortion stance, that Republicans seem to promote or back that come across as fascist to me. Or even violent.
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:25 PM
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My mistake. I was under the impression gop was republican and aoc is Democrat. Looks like aoc just happens to be a congresswoman that's hardcore dem.

75% you think? What fascism policies and beliefs are they about that concern you? Genuinely curious. Because the only fascists that I see are dems trying to strip our American rights and freedoms away. There hasn't been any policies, outside of the abortion stance, that Republicans seem to promote or back that come across as fascist to me. Or even violent.

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

Have you not seen all the attacks and threats against the FBI all because someone they like was presented with a legal search warrant? How about the mass shootings with the shooters regurgitating the same talking points that are pushed on Fox News? What do you call Jan 6th? Non violent? People died and cops were beaten. They lie and spin the truth constantly. They vote no on things that would help Americans just to stick it to the democrats. Their leader takes top secret documents and keeps them on his estate unsecured where he has a Saudi backed golf tournament the same month…his cronies download voting machine servers in a coordinated and organized effort…there are so many things. And the link above describes the party to a T.

They are also trying to erode the separation of church and state which is a huge deal to me. Christians aren’t the only people in America…whatever happened to the land of opportunity?
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:29 PM
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https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

Have you not seen all the attacks and threats against the FBI all because someone they like was presented with a legal search warrant? How about the mass shootings with the shooters regurgitating the same talking points that are pushed on Fox News? What do you call Jan 6th? Non violent? People died and cops were beaten. They lie and spin the truth constantly. They vote no on things that would help Americans just to stick it to the democrats. Their leader takes top secret documents and keeps them on his estate unsecured where he has a Saudi backed golf tournament the same month…his cronies download voting machine servers in a coordinated and organized effort…there are so many things. And the link above describes the party to a T.

They are also trying to erode the separation of church and state which is a huge deal to me. Christians aren’t the only people in America…whatever happened to the land of opportunity?
Fascism is explicitly an atheistic (Nietzschean "God is dead") ideology. Same with commienism.
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:29 PM
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75% you think? What fascism policies and beliefs are they about that concern you? What lies are they spreading that concern you? Because the only fascists or liars that I see are dems trying to strip our American rights and freedoms away under the guise of "safety". There hasn't been any policies, outside of the abortion stance, that Republicans seem to promote or back that come across as fascist to me. Or even violent.
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:33 PM
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My mistake. I was under the impression gop was republican and aoc is Democrat. Looks like aoc just happens to be a congresswoman that's hardcore dem.

75% you think? What fascism policies and beliefs are they about that concern you? What lies are they spreading that concern you? Because the only fascists or liars that I see are dems trying to strip our American rights and freedoms away under the guise of "safety". There hasn't been any policies, outside of the abortion stance, that Republicans seem to promote or back that come across as fascist to me. Or even violent.
Republicans don't want Trans to have the same rights
If it was up to republicans marriage between gays wouldn't be allowed
Republicans want to get rid of separation of church and state
States can't decide whether guns can be restricted in most public locations but can restrict abortions
Progression generally scare republicans.

list goes on and on and on

Popular vote says democrats are doing the right thing.
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:33 PM
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Fascism is explicitly an atheistic (Nietzschean "God is dead") ideology. Same with commienism.
That’s just not true. Hitler referenced his Catholicism in his speeches. Same with Mussolini. Religion is an identifying factor for these people so they can group others into the “undesirable” category. You’d better hope you pick the right religion when fascism comes to a toys r us near you.
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:35 PM
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Have you not seen all the attacks and threats against the FBI all because someone they like was presented with a legal search warrant? ?
These arguments really can’t go anywhere because if the premise is that something negative being said against an entity can result in violence towards that entity, than the only solution is to allow nothing negative to be said about any entity ever

Because for years news has been saying negative things about the police, and there have been actual ambushes and assassinations of police officers. Now I left off “as a result” because that’s a more difficult link to prove. But did all the negative publicity and demonizing play a role? Perhaps

Not to sound like a broken record but I don’t see how any negative speech towards any person, political party, organization, etc can be allowed if the premise is that it could cause a crazy person to want to attack that entity/party/organization

Now if trump or whoever said “we need to firebomb the fbi” that’s an obvious call to violence
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:44 PM
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Here’s how I would say it, if I were a Dem:

“Do you see how this negative rhetoric about the FBI has resulted in an attack within a day of it occurring? I am not saying you shouldn’t be allowed to say it but we need to be mindful of how these statements can influence dumb and crazy political fanatics. And I acknowledge that this can and does go both ways, although I believe your side has more people willing to carry out violent attacks”

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Old 08-16-2022, 04:54 PM
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Have you not seen all the attacks and threats against the FBI all because someone they like was presented with a legal search warrant? How about the mass shootings with the shooters regurgitating the same talking points that are pushed on Fox News? What do you call Jan 6th? Non violent? People died and cops were beaten. They lie and spin the truth constantly. They vote no on things that would help Americans just to stick it to the democrats. Their leader takes top secret documents and keeps them on his estate unsecured where he has a Saudi backed golf tournament the same monthÂ…his cronies download voting machine servers in a coordinated and organized effortÂ…there are so many things. And the link above describes the party to a T.

They are also trying to erode the separation of church and state which is a huge deal to me. Christians arenÂ’t the only people in AmericaÂ…whatever happened to the land of opportunity?
Ok thats all reasonable things to be upset about so I see where your passion is fueled! but to be fair, I think everything you just mentioned has to do with trump and Liberal biased media headlines and very little to do with the republican party themselves and their policies and motives, no? One could say that the people you're getting your information from is lying and spinning the truth constantly. Like I said you and I will believe who and what we wanna believe. So aren't we essentially both guilty of not only believing the information we read/watch but also in pointing fingers at the other party for doing a lot of the same type of things that we say we're against?

Wait a second! Could it be that we're both being played here? so we will go kill each other out in the streets defending our country from the evil bad party? Instead of having a actual discussion about things to realize maybe we have more in common with one another than we thought?
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