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Old 07-25-2023, 10:20 PM
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You’re a physical therapist my man, Jesus Christ

Why would you have more expertise than Unsung on the mental health of children? He probably has as much insight as anyone except maybe teachers and psychiatrists
I talk to kids all day in my job, but I am not licensed (but overseen by clinicians who are), don’t diagnose, and although I often work with trans kids, gender issues are something I have very little training or education in. So I’m not going to purport to be an expert here

I just know how easy it is to manipulate anyone’s, not just a kid’s chart, to match the desired outcome

Why would a particular outcome be desired? Well, that’s easy to answer: who are the stakeholders?

In my situation, I’m often requested by a school, whose psychologist or counselor perhaps has a particular outcome they’d like to see, almost always on maximum liability safety minded. The kid is a stakeholder, they have a potential desired outcome. And their parents are a stakeholder, with a desired outcome

And sometimes NONE of these desired outcomes match. And sometimes the clinician themselves might have a bias, because they don’t like how the parents treated them, or they are going over their allotted time on this situation and want to be done with it and home or off to the next one. Or all sorts of things

And based on everyone’s individual biases and outcomes, they’ll all be emphasizing certain symptoms and behaviors and minimizing others. It’s all incredibly malleable unfortunately
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Old 07-25-2023, 10:36 PM
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I think this isn’t some grand conspiracy though and just a societal “tell me what I want to hear, not what I need to hear” issue

Myself, if I went to a doctor and wanted a particular procedure, I don’t want to be grilled about why I might not need it. I want the doctor to STFU and sign off on the procedure I want. And if the doctor does without hassling me, I’m going to recommend that doctor to all my friends and family because he/she gave me what I want

Doctor makes money, patient is happy, win-win. Then as a queer clinician who believes affirmation as always going to result in a net positive result, a win-win-win scenario

So why the hassle? Why the grilling? Why deny people? That’s what worries me
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Old 07-25-2023, 11:26 PM
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I think all the dysgenic morbidly obese should transition as soon as possible. If you're 12 with early onset diabetes, you, and your parents, should be forcibly spayed and neutered.

Also, if you're retarded enough to fall into the trans cult for perceived social benefits, you should be irreversibly transitioned before you can change your mind.

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Old 07-25-2023, 11:47 PM
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I think all the dysgenic morbidly obese should transition as soon as possible. If you're 12 with early onset diabetes, you, and your parents, should be forcibly spayed and neutered.

Also, if you're retarded enough to fall into the trans cult for perceived social benefits, you should be irreversibly transitioned before you can change your mind.

No refunds.
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Old 07-25-2023, 11:50 PM
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Old 07-25-2023, 11:52 PM
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Angry about getting catfished by a female woodelf?
Nah. I support spaying and neutering people stupid enough to want it.

If you're not practicing Eugenics, you're practicing dysgenics.
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Old 07-26-2023, 12:00 AM
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You’re a physical therapist my man, Jesus Christ

Why would you have more expertise than Unsung on the mental health of children? He probably has as much insight as anyone except maybe teachers and psychiatrists
Where did I say I knew more about mental health of children? Here, underlined it for ya

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People are making the argument that kids should or shouldn't be taking puberty blockers. I'm noting that none of us have any fucking clue, me included.
And yea, shit on my profession all you want, but I do know how to read and critically evaluate studies.

Unsunghero makes a good point about unethical doctors doing what his TRT doc does and just doing whatever the patient wants. Still, they are risking their license every time they do that, and it's better than politicians deciding not out of child welfare but concern trolling for votes and kulturkampf
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Old 07-26-2023, 12:01 AM
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It's in the context of Speaker McCarthy saying he's going to pointlessly impeach Biden.

Might as well pointlessly attempt to indict a sitting President. (cannot do)
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Old 07-26-2023, 12:05 AM
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Holman rule? 🤔💭
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Old 07-26-2023, 12:33 AM
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Where did I say I knew more about mental health of children? Here, underlined it for ya



And yea, shit on my profession all you want, but I do know how to read and critically evaluate studies.

Unsunghero makes a good point about unethical doctors doing what his TRT doc does and just doing whatever the patient wants. Still, they are risking their license every time they do that, and it's better than politicians deciding not out of child welfare but concern trolling for votes and kulturkampf
Not just from dad’s experience, but from the entire fitness community, most TRT doctors take a very liberal standpoint on patient choice

The fact of the matter is these doctors know that if they don’t do it, the person is going to get what they want from an underground lab and not have their health markers monitored. So may as well be liberal with prescription and give them the benefit of council and oversight

Getting a script for TRT from any endo does NOT require a particular blood marker. All it requires is to rattle off a certain number of symptoms, such as low sex drive, mental fog, difficulty building muscle, fatigue, etc. That’s it. Symptoms that anyone can look up ahead of time and memorize

And you know what? I’m 100% in support of that. No TRT endo is going to lose their license just for being liberal with prescriptions. It will take something disastrous happening and a lawsuit as a result, and this will be on their own individual judgement and monitoring the situation. They can always choose to cut the patient off if their PSA scores too high, something like that

But these are ADULTS, making sometimes medically reckless adult decisions with doctor oversight

Not. Fuckin. Impressionable. Wanting to appease the adults. Children

That’s my concern. Not based in cruelty
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