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[Lune]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not a doctor but the idea that preventing the body from its natural process of development wouldn’t have ANY significant negative downstream effects is baffling to me

But hey, studies, yknow

Better hope you don’t change your mind about delaying puberty as a boy, or enjoy that micropenis for life?

It almost certainly has considerable negative downstream effects, but you have to compare those to the status quo without any intervention. Only a medical doctor is qualified to make that determination on an individual basis.

The more cruel among you can hate on queer people all you want, because that's the crux of all your arguments... concern trolling. You don't give a fuck about the welfare of queer children. You just hate them and want them to be like you. If you cared about the welfare of children you wouldn't be flooding society with guns to the extent you have three year olds doing mass shooting drills and locking children in cages n shit

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It almost certainly has considerable negative downstream effects, but you have to compare those to the status quo without any intervention. Only a medical doctor is qualified to make that determination on an individual basis.

The more cruel among you can hate on queer people all you want, because that's the crux of all your arguments... concern trolling. You don't give a fuck about the welfare of queer children. You just hate them and want them to be like you.

Cruelty would be encouraging them to get them and then laughing at them when they don’t have the desired effect. Apathy would be just not giving a shit

Expressing concern for possible permanent side effects I don’t think qualifies as either

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you get puberty blockers if not through a doctor?

What do you mean? Every child that is getting puberty blockers is intersex?

Bold.

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[Lune]

Cruelty would be claiming that no child is suitable for puberty blockers without a medical degree.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What do you mean? Every child getting puberty blockers is intersex?

No, but they would have to be prescribed by a doctor and overseen by a doctor

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cruelty would be claiming that no child is suitable for puberty blockers without a medical degree.

How dare you express concern for me taking HGH

I’m trying to live my best life. I don’t need your concern trolling (I don’t really see it as such but I can see how someone who wants a reason to argue would)

I’m citing doctors, Mayo Clinic is considered one of the best hospitals in my state

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m citing doctors, Mayo Clinic is considered one of the best hospitals in my state

As we all know, consensus is a fact based exercise.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How dare you express concern for me taking HGH

I’m trying to live my best life. I don’t need your concern trolling (I don’t really see it as such but I can see how someone who wants a reason to argue would)

I’m citing doctors, Mayo Clinic is considered one of the best hospitals in my state

lol I was just informing you about some of the risks associated with HGH; go nuts.

You're citing the equivalent of WebMD which is medical topics for dummies and far from the body of professional knowledge required to actually be informed about this decision. There are tradeoffs, that's correct.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol I was just informing you about some of the risks associated with HGH; go nuts.

You're citing the equivalent of WebMD which is medical topics for dummies and far from the body of professional knowledge required to actually be informed about this decision.

And you are an endocrinologist? Because it was an endo that prescribes the HGH. If we are going full on credentialism here

I don’t mind your advice, and I don’t care what your background is. It’s up to me ultimately to determine how I feel about the accuracy of the advice, not to whine about your intentions giving it or try to label it as “cruelty” because this needs to be about good vs evil in your limited worldview lol

[Lune]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And you are an endocrinologist? Because it was an endo that prescribes the HGH. If we are going full on credentialism here

I don’t mind your advice, and I don’t care what your background is. It’s up to me ultimately to determine how I feel about the accuracy of the advice, not to whine about your intentions giving it or try to label it as “cruelty” because this needs to be about good vs evil in your limited worldview lol

The part that's evil is the obvious seething hatred of queer people disguised as concern for children. Somehow I doubt the crowd dedicated to the slaughter of geriatrics during COVID gives a single fuck about protecting children, or anyone but themselves for that matter.

People are making the argument that kids should or shouldn't be taking puberty blockers. I'm noting that none of us have any fucking clue, me included. It should be between the child, their parent, and a doctor, just like your HGH should be between you and your doctor, not some person on the internet. An endocrinologist will likely have it dialed in to minimize side effects. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence (or expertise I suppose). I'm not telling you one way or the other with HGH, but this thread is full of people saying children should never get puberty blockers. Also I'm not a doctor but I do have a clinical doctorate.