NY GRAND JURY VOTES TO INDICT TRUMP

[Origen]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Define "definitely does harm them" by not taking it?
How do we know this?
How do we know the medication isn't going to harm them more?
If it's going to have an impact on them for the rest of their lives, I'd argue that is the 'definitely does harm' category. Not the other way around.

Well we're never gonna know if we don't conduct the long term studies Ooloo dishonestly hinted at, are we? Longest one I see is five years, but since he didn't say how long is long enough, who the hell knows! There go those goalposts again.

I take it you're gonna treat circumcision with the same bigoted vitriol as you do your anti-trans views from here on out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's what's wrong with it: the studies are incredibly limited methodologically. They essentially ask people six months to a year after having treatment if they feel good about it, and unsurprisingly most respondents say "I sure do!". And then there is no follow up beyond that initial timeframe. The sample sizes are also absurdly small. You would need a drastically larger sample size, tracked over decades, to make any definitive proclamations about whether this actually helps people, because the outcomes are often permanent and irreversible. You also need to account for the data regarding regret and de-transition, and show that the benefits of transition outweigh the risks. As detailed here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10027312/

Ok, Just read through the government study you linked.

The majority of the peer reviews are suggesting the study has flaws but the treatment resulted in less thoughts of suicide.

Not sure why you are dunking yourself.

Now, do you have any study to back up your claims?

I will save you the time.
You don't but you have opinions on it all that make you feel validated.

[Patriam1066]

Why has finland banned puberty blockers? Protestants invented science and thinking, it should concern you that they disagree with your position bud light Botten

[Botten]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why has finland banned puberty blockers? Protestants invented science and thinking, it should concern you that they disagree with your position bud light Botten

It isn't banned -.- in Finland.

Recommendation of the Council for Choices in
Health Care in Finland (PALKO / COHERE
Finland)

At a minimum, a consultation for a pre- pubescent child at the specialist setting at the TAYS includes an extensive assessment appointment costing EUR 369. If necessary, a day-long outpatient consultation can be arranged, costing EUR 1,408.

The consultation and assessment process for minors at the specialist settings of TAYS or HUS costs EUR 4,300. If it is determined that this process would be untimely, the minimum cost is EUR 640. An initial assessment / consultation by phone costs EUR 100.

The planning and monitoring costs for pubertal suppression are EUR 2,000 for the first year, and EUR 1,200 for subsequent years. The costs for the planning and monitoring of hormone treatments are a minimum of EUR 400 per year.

These costs do not take into account the additional costs of psychosocial support provided in the local level, the possible need for psychiatric treatment, or hormone treatment medication costs.

[Trexller]

bud light botten sure does love it when little boys act like little girls

the amount of effort to push the trans agenda from bud light botten is staggering

if he put half of that effort into his wife, she probably wouldn't cheat so much

[Lune]

What the fuck would any of you know-- you're not pediatricians, psychiatrists, or endocrinologists. This shit is between doctor and patient

"Hurr durr we shouldn't do trans aortic valve replacements on <55 y/o males with a history of PAD" that's what you sound like right now

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What the fuck would any of you know-- you're not pediatricians, psychiatrists, or endocrinologists. This shit is between doctor and patient

"Hurr durr we shouldn't do trans aortic valve replacements on <55 y/o males with a history of PAD" that's what you sound like right now

You're still pretending it's all clinical intersexuality.

That is not true.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're still pretending it's all clinical intersexism.

It is not.

How do you get puberty blockers if not through a doctor?

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What the fuck would any of you know-- you're not pediatricians, psychiatrists, or endocrinologists. This shit is between doctor and patient

"Hurr durr we shouldn't do trans aortic valve replacements on <55 y/o males with a history of PAD" that's what you sound like right now

Not a doctor but the idea that preventing the body from its natural process of development wouldn’t have ANY significant negative downstream effects is baffling to me

But hey, studies, yknow

Better hope you don’t change your mind about delaying puberty as a boy, or enjoy that micropenis for life?

[unsunghero]

“Not enough skin to be able to turn that dick into a vagina” = micropenis for life possibility?

Better hope you were sure of your decision…