Someone Translate this wall of text from Omni

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is getting extremely convoluted and circuitous. I never said any of those things, at this point you're just arguing against what you think the mentality of most raiders on the server is. Not what I've actually said in this or other threads. I've ONLY pointed out the time investment by leadership and key members, I've never claimed that entire guilds work just as hard as they do. As a matter of fact I literally called them cogs in the loot machine.

A guild is a team, and the only people who should be concerned about team members not pulling their weight are the people in charge of and on that team. If the leadership and key members are willing to give them loot for showing up and doing whatever it is they need them to do, there's nothing illegitimate about that player getting loot. These players don't negate the time put in by the leadership or key member.

The end result of the teams efforts as a whole are what matter, not whether or not an outsider has determined that x amount of the players didn't work hard enough and thus aren't meeting the criteria for "competing" or "deserving" loot.

going to step in here and declare ChampionStanding winner of this word war for his use of "circuitous," a very fine word indeed and most deserving of these 5 points.

5 points to Griffondor.

Also, for continued excellence in trolling with shiptoast, I'm awarding loramin 5 internet points and nominate him for server guide.

5 points to Slytherin.

[pogs4ever]

GM Event quake once a year (p99 or classic anniversary) where targets are divided up. Killed in the most classic style as possible instead of the most efficient. Take screenshots/video. Marketing for your guild and p99 server.

Put on your bronze and mithril two hander and fight Nagafen. Fight faydedar in the water. Crawl up to inny’s room and get grav fluxed 100 yards constantly. Bust into the thurgadin royal court and murder everyone red-wedding esque. A dead tormax in front of his throne of whoever’s dragon head that is.

That’s my dream for a rotation/classic nostalgia experiences. The other 51+ cycles be competition or whatever.

[tyrant49333]

If you want a rotation just go to the live servers where you and your substandard guild can wipe over and over in an instanced raid zone in peace

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said any of those things, at this point you're just arguing against what you think the mentality of most raiders on the server is. Not what I've actually said in this or other threads.

qft

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As opposed to the exemplary humility demonstrated by those on the other side of this discussion:





Yes, a real class act in humility for sure.

Don't worry, unless you've designated the bronze armor I collect in Mistmoore to gift to new players leveling up in Gfay as your pixels too, you don't have to worry about me taking any of your precious pixels. Both guilds I have been a part of no longer exist on this server due to the toxic raid scene.

Have no concern. I know my place on the loot/raid totem pole that has been assigned to me by the neckbeard society here based on my work-life balance. And just in case I forgot, I know I can always come here to have it rubbed in my face. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

glad you know your place, moved to resolved.

[Kefit]

Just handle raid mobs the same as the Drusella and Lucan camps.

Each raid mob is its own camp and can be held as such between spawns. Your guild has to maintain a presence in the camp and clear the trash whenever it pops. Do this for a week uninterrupted and that raid mob is yours whenever it spawns.

Now any guild can get any mob they want, though they'll need to take care to not wipe to a flurry drake that pops at 2am or whatever.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

glad you know your place, moved to resolved.

Thanks, prick.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by destrozi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Omni is not an uber guild though. They are trying to argue the rules from the sideline. The current raid competition between AM / Core / AG is quite cordial these days.

Someone isn’t in leadership. Lol

[enjchanter]

I think the bigger issue is that vulak robes only drop for guilds I'm not in

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Kefit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just handle raid mobs the same as the Drusella and Lucan camps.

Each raid mob is its own camp and can be held as such between spawns. Your guild has to maintain a presence in the camp and clear the trash whenever it pops. Do this for a week uninterrupted and that raid mob is yours whenever it spawns.

Now any guild can get any mob they want, though they'll need to take care to not wipe to a flurry drake that pops at 2am or whatever.

I mean this is sort of the end result of the OP's train of thought. If Kittens/TSS/DBB/Asgard whoever wants to spend a Saturday sitting in fear clearing trash during golem window to claim a golem spawn as their camp, let them. If they wipe a guild with the "trackers" can come in and mop up their failed mob. Ditto Trak, if that guild first Trak kill means you are willing to pull juggs while camping the window in the lair while other guilds have more pressing matter, when why not let them?

From there its just the (classic!) play nice policy stuff. Run logs and fraps, can show you were first at camp with a reasonable force. If some other guild wants to try training or KS'ing you have recourse. Anyone who does try might find that guild they fucked with to be a thorn in their side for future events.

Couple this with more earthquakes assuming staff isn't babysitting too much (maybe, maybe not) and lots of people can take shots at shit that feels out of reach, but still have to "compete and put in work" to do it.