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Old 11-29-2017, 07:20 PM
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no, what makes them special is the same thing that makes any minority that seems to be successful in society... culturally they dont think the system is taking advantage of them so they just commit crime instead of working hard at being a model member of it.
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:23 PM
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no, what makes them special is the same thing that makes any minority that seems to be successful in society... culturally they dont think the system is taking advantage of them so they just commit crime instead of working hard at being a model member of it.
The flaw in your thinking is that you don't consider where culture comes from. If you have rich parents who can send you to college, don't you think that might have an effect on your "culture", what occupation you go into, and how successful you are at it? Similarly, if you and most people you know had single moms working multiple minimum wage jobs just to put food on the table, don't you think that might affect your "culture" (and occupation and financial success)?

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Old 11-29-2017, 07:28 PM
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I am an expert so here.

point 1 - Police are "racist" when theyre in ghettos that you would be to afraid to even drive through, so stop pretending that police are racist in the vast majority of places outside of them.

2 - society does see all race equally but when a black person dresses like a gangbanger you're supposed to also see them the same way as the black guy on the other side of the isle who is wearing cargo shorts and a super hero t shirt.

3 - if you are in contact with people who think black people feel less pain than white people, than I suggest you move cus you live in an unfixable part of missisippi and have no hope at a decent life there.

4 - you cannot predict a persons economic state unless you look at how they dress and by the numbers black people who are not poor dress poor and therefore people make assumptions about them. (so their heart rate rises)
1 and 2) You have a legitimate point here. It's hard to make the future better when the present sucks, and the present very likely will suck if the past sucked. You could just give up all hope of improving things, or you could say "that's a challenge, but not an insurmountable one".

3) That study was about ALL people, not racists Mississippians. Racism is subtly pervasive in our society

4) But you can look at equally well-dressed black and white men and correctly guess (better than 50/50 at least) that the white man is better off financially, because whites as a group are better off financially
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:44 PM
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That's a good thing to point out to people spouting all this pseudoscience about blacks just being plain born inferior.

I think its because they don't have a rebellious attitude toward what Bill O'reilly once called the "white establishment." They don't have a Black American accent they have a Nigerian one (or just sound white). It's not looked down on nearly as much.
I'm glad we're admitting that there are variables at play in comparative success outside of skin color. You haven't identified the operative ones separating Nigerian success from African American abject failure, but you're on the right track

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Old 11-29-2017, 07:46 PM
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4) But you can look at equally well-dressed black and white men and correctly guess (better than 50/50 at least) that the white man is better off financially, because whites as a group are better off financially
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:50 PM
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That's because the white man drives a Honda Accord and the black man lives paycheck to paycheck leasing a Cadillac

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Old 11-29-2017, 08:21 PM
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The flaw in your thinking is that you don't consider where culture comes from. If you have rich parents who can send you to college, don't you think that might have an effect on your "culture", what occupation you go into, and how successful you are at it? Similarly, if you and most people you know had single moms working multiple minimum wage jobs just to put food on the table, don't you think that might affect your "culture" (and occupation and financial success)?

Nothing comes from a void, our history affects all of us deeply.
Oh so poor white working class families don't exist?

its becoming more and more clear that you see white people as wealthy and black people as poor and actually are the racist here.

The descriptions you have of both white and black people in the last few posts are alarmingly casually racist. I suspect you know this and the reason you're a social justice warrior right now is to balance the behavior you have had in the past.

That's ok though, admitting that you're a casual racist is a huge step for a lefty. But what you need to understand is that righties don't think the same way, we don't see black people as victims or criminals, we see them as Americans. So when you tell us that we're racist or that society is racist as a collective then we get upset, because in our circles it's not true.

But what you're actually saying is that YOU are racist and you need to change, and that's cool, we agree.

I suggest taking a road trip around the country, it might change your opinion about how well off white oeople have it and how much of a victim black peoples are.

You might find out neither are true.
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:26 PM
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You want to know what it's like be black as a white guy? Well dress like this:

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and this hang out with some young black men dressed similarly while your making some kind of public disturbance. Then you'll know how cops treat black kids dressed that way.

Not the real deal but should give you some idea. Make sure you also get busted with weed in some red neck state like Texas -- bring lube with you for jail. Because unlike black guys, your pretty much guaranteed to get raped if you are some skinny sub-24 year old white boy (probably by a black guy).

Apparently everyone in America thinks its funny when men get raped in jail. So it happens a lot. Maybe they don't realize its not like the big bad motherfuckers get raped...its the skinny young ones you idiots.
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:37 PM
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Harris county (Houston) doesn't even arrest you for weed anymore

It's 2017 pussy Texas leads the nation in everything, especially masculinity
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:45 PM
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Harris county (Houston) doesn't even arrest you for weed anymore

It's 2017 pussy Texas leads the nation in everything, especially masculinity
dude your posts legit make me miss texas WTF? god bless you
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