All Players are Raid Suspended Until Further Notice

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CSR wants us to share, not create socialism. It's called compromise. Increasing your kills 400% and decreasing others 75% is not compromise.

Thanks, Phisting. This is 100% true.

Originally Posted by Vyal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

20 people in zone to claim a mob
If the force drops below 20 & the next guild has 20 in zone they screenshot it & then claim it...

Er, do you know why we implemented variance in the first place? Ever been to a 'desync party' on Project 1999?

Originally Posted by Elamrnieh

If you want to stop camp out armies simply impliment a code that when removing the character from being active in the game world it checks a flag in the zone.

Have you ever coded for an MMO? Fix one thing, break 10 others. Obviously you already knew that, though, because otherwise you wouldn't be posting here like you do. "Simply code in a fix!" is always going to be our last option, especially when the Development team and Rogean are trying to push out Velious and a whole slew of other things.

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh

Saying you want something to change but unwilling to do something for that change if it impacts you is saying that you don't actually value that change strongly enough to warrant others giving effort since you won't yourself. Leadership 101.

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh

I never made a claim that they did and I am freely aware of their and my own options.

If you don't like the truth that others aren't motivated to act when the person telling them to act is not motivated to do so then you have a problem with basic human psychology.

Hmm, so you're saying if you don't like something, you should do something to change it instead of just complaining about it?

Then...

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh

This is what happens when you have a single-minded authority with no real desire to think about the consequences of their actions and just decides to go with the first thing they think of that seems to be a punishment. I have to keep trying to remind myself to not be surprised when an element of humanity does something stupid and literally agaisnt their stated goals.

Go make your own Everquest server and 'do something for that change'. Come talk to us when it fails, then you can have an opinion on how to manage a server.

Here, I'll help you.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Radd I don't hate you or tear down your posts.

I even feel like its time to release Velious in a state like Kunark was when it first dropped. Here's what making a compromise looks like. I would HATE to see progression (likely way too easy) through Velious with tainted pixels. I probably would hate that as much as you would like to go back to the old system where TMO got "everything".

My primary concern right now is the division of the player base into a real "haves" vs "have nots" and players quitting. Lots of players when they quit, especially if their guild is disbanded, don't look back (they will still be on the forums tho). That's not good and not what I want.

I think its time for a Velious release that's a little more "project" than "classic" to be honest. For the good of the server, seriously. I know Nilbog wants to do this one perfect, we all do, but... I think it may truly be time to turn us loose and let us wade through the zones and do the pointing out work of NPCs for them as patch as we go.



I knew that would happen.

I would agree, I would just be worried about unforseen circumstances. You know there will be some quest out of sorts and cause millions of pp to be shot into the economy the first day or so. I guess the PEQ code is pretty bug checked by now....just not classic.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Radd I don't hate you or tear down your posts.

I even feel like its time to release Velious in a state like Kunark was when it first dropped. Here's what making a compromise looks like. I would HATE to see progression (likely way too easy) through Velious with tainted pixels. I probably would hate that as much as you would like to go back to the old system where TMO got "everything".

My primary concern right now is the division of the player base into a real "haves" vs "have nots" and players quitting. Lots of players when they quit, especially if their guild is disbanded, don't look back (they will still be on the forums tho). That's not good and not what I want.

I think its time for a Velious release that's a little more "project" than "classic" to be honest. For the good of the server, seriously. I know Nilbog wants to do this one perfect, we all do, but... I think it may truly be time to turn us loose and let us wade through the zones and do the pointing out work of NPCs for them as patch as we go.



I knew that would happen.

This...
Release the Velious Beta!

[Nocsucow]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Havent raided in 3 weeks actually, and I feel great. I get to level my lowbie mage and chill w/ some popcorn till this crap blows over and my guild can dominate again. Tears are classic.

this stupid ass attitude is whats got this server in the shape its in " Oh im just so cool cause im in a over crowded guild with people who have no life so we DOMINATE everything HE............HE ........HE " fucking dumbass

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nocsucow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this stupid ass attitude is whats got this server in the shape its in " Oh im just so cool cause im in a over crowded guild with people who have no life so we DOMINATE everything HE............HE ........HE " fucking dumbass

This stupid ass attitude is what is making this server so terrible right now.

[drakelord]

Speaking of Velious, what's left to be done that players can help with?

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CSR wants us to share, not create socialism. It's called compromise. Increasing your kills 400% and decreasing others 75% is not compromise.

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks, Phisting. This is 100% true.

This narrative is getting tiresome. I'm not even going to give my customary rebuttal because I'm tired of it falling on deaf ears.

[Nocsucow]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This stupid ass attitude is what is making this server so terrible right now.

shut up ... you're a fag ' nobody cares what you go to say anymore

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by drakelord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Speaking of Velious, what's left to be done that players can help with?

Id suggest contacting nilbog directly, hes not going to see a 1 line post on the 45th page of general chat )

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CSR wants us to share, not create socialism. It's called compromise. Increasing your kills 400% and decreasing others 75% is not compromise.

Sorry, this isn't on focus for the conversation too much, but the political scientist side of me has to say that what is being suggested is not even close to socialism. That's an irresponsible analogy in this case, and has no relevance. If you want to say that the CSRs want us to share, not to share everything evenly, say that. But the definitions of socialism isn't about sharing everything evenly.

Now then, that was all.