Proposition For Raid Rules - Input Requested

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Originally Posted by Sarius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VP should really not be included if there is no training and FE/IB have sufficient force now

VP should definitely count, but every dragon in there other than PD should be the same value as kunark world dragons (very small).

However, I see no reason charging two guilds for working together for a single dragon that no one wants and no other guild is able to compete for it (because they aren't keyed). Promote good will between the guilds by providing a benefit to joint raids.

[Troubled]

150 points per month per guild

T1 Trak 30pts - VS 70 pts
T2 CT/Inny - 50 pts
T3 Gore/Tal/Sev/Hand/Noble/Fay - 30 pts
T4 Draco/Vox/Naggy - 15 pts

Nex/PD/Hosh/Druushk/Xygoz/SW - 10 per dragon

2 hours after spawn, mob worth 0 points(keeps mobs from staying up for no reason)

Kinda like that? If I'm getting this?

More points can be added when SoV drops with point values for those raid mobs?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

150 points per month per guild

T1 Trak 30pts - VS 70 pts
T2 CT/Inny - 50 pts
T3 Gore/Tal/Sev/Hand/Noble/Fay - 30 pts
T4 Draco/Vox/Naggy - 15 pts

Nex/PD/Hosh/Druushk/Xygoz/SW - 10 per dragon

2 hours after spawn, mob worth 0 points(keeps mobs from staying up for no reason)

Kinda like that? If I'm getting this?

More points can be added when SoV drops with point values for those raid mobs?

So...VS at 70 points eh. Get what, two kills a month at that rate? I'd imagine VS would start to be killed by unguilded alts, seeing as he can be done with like 12 people.

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Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

150 points per month per guild

T1 Trak 30pts - VS 70 pts
T2 CT/Inny - 50 pts
T3 Gore/Tal/Sev/Hand/Noble/Fay - 30 pts
T4 Draco/Vox/Naggy - 15 pts

Nex/PD/Hosh/Druushk/Xygoz/SW - 10 per dragon

2 hours after spawn, mob worth 0 points(keeps mobs from staying up for no reason)

Kinda like that? If I'm getting this?

More points can be added when SoV drops with point values for those raid mobs?

Monthly would be wrong, weekly is the way to go.

Sky should stay the way it is, rotated and have no cost association.

VS and Trak should both have high values. VS(easy/great drops) Trak (great drops, access to VP) and both are epic mobs.

PD should have a high value, the same or higher than VS and Trak.

CT, INNY, Draco should have moderately high values. (draco that spawns with CT should be free if the guild who kills CT also kills Draco).

Kunark world dragons and VP dragons (not counting PD) should be equal value and relatively low value.

Naggy/Vox/Maestro should be the same or less than the kunark world dragons.


Raiding planes for gear will not cost anything, neither should royals.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

150 points per month per guild

T1 Trak 30pts - VS 70 pts
T2 CT/Inny - 50 pts
T3 Gore/Tal/Sev/Hand/Noble/Fay - 30 pts
T4 Draco/Vox/Naggy - 15 pts

Nex/PD/Hosh/Druushk/Xygoz/SW - 10 per dragon

2 hours after spawn, mob worth 0 points(keeps mobs from staying up for no reason)

Kinda like that? If I'm getting this?

More points can be added when SoV drops with point values for those raid mobs?

What if after you kill a mob the points you would need to spend towards a kill of that mob would double if it's within the same month as the original kill, and if you tried for a 3rd kill of the same mob it would double again?

*edit* maybe instead of month, the same week?

[Yinikren]

All epic mobs should cost the same, except for probably scale dropping dragons since they are droppable. This can always go up for server vote. But it shouldn't tier epics.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

The devil is certainly in the details in these points systems. Please explain how in your system points would be distributed to players/guilds ?

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The devil is certainly in the details in these points systems. Please explain how in your system points would be distributed to players/guilds ?

Mine is just a flat system. You have a potental of x amount of raids. This is to get hardcores to agree that they get x raids a month. If they are really good at mob killin. TMO and FE/ib are not going away. Their machine s need filling.

[Tegellan]

Soo how many points does a fear or Hate clear cost? (These were taken away during the TMO raid suspension so they must be raids and there for cost points)

If your going to be doing this kind of stuff you have to also include the raids that the big guilds no longer consder raids. (Many low level guilds do these on scheduled "Raid nights")

So how many points are chardok royals? Drusilla in HS? Tola or Juggs? Maestro?
What defines a raid???

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Tegellan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Soo how many points does a fear or Hate clear cost? (These were taken away during the TMO raid suspension so they must be raids and there for cost points)

If your going to be doing this kind of stuff you have to also include the raids that the big guilds no longer consder raids. (Many low level guilds do these on scheduled "Raid nights")

So how many points are chardok royals? Drusilla in HS? Tola or Juggs? Maestro?
What defines a raid???

Forgot maestro!


I would consider any mob more than one guild mobilize for and race. Royals no due to spawn time. Tola and drusilla no for the same. Fear and hate clears are not for boss mobs. They are for equipment gearing of guilds.

Make judgement calls