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[dav]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except IB was RMTing with Amelinda all along. Amelinda was being paid by Kinsawt(IB leader)

I love how you choose to forget this fact.

Huh? They have NOTHING to do with my statement. I would not attempt to refute them or cry about them either. Of COURSE Amelinda assisted Kinsawt and others in RMTing off the server. That has no bearing on what I said.

Also, Kinsawt was not and never has been guild leader of IB.

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by dav [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Huh? They have NOTHING to do with my statement. I would not attempt to refute them or cry about them either. Of COURSE Amelinda assisted Kinsawt and others in RMTing off the server. That has no bearing on what I said.

Also, Kinsawt was not and never has been guild leader of IB.

Raid leader/officer. Whatever. You say tmo had GM assistance yet that same gm was assisting IB. Also that same gm Suspended TMO. Yep GM assistance.

You also didnt mention the 3 IB staff members Hobby/Cyrius/Xzerion, or Rogean being R/L friends with many of IB's older members. You didn't mention the Foxwoods dates, and direct phone calls Eashan and others got to make to rogean. (not to mention the direct line to its inguild staff members)

But please tell us more!

[Nanjiro]

bhahaha, seriously just disband already.

[fastboy21]

i vote disband. do it. you won't.

[Loke]

Ok, last one, but I really do think these TMO guys have great ideas for how the staff should handle this.

Tiggles: http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...27&postcount=9

[Fountree]

Another great Nirgon post, +1

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another great Nirgon post, +1

It's called being objective and thinking things through.

I'd suggest TMO even take a month break to see how IB/FE treat the rest of the guilds on the server.

See if they actually make a rotation/raid calendar. THEN they are the better men.

Go on, I'll wait.

Otherwise, they're the same as TMO, just less determined and willing to give up less RL.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact is using this argument is null and void considering TMO was once the guild that was going to dethrone the previous "douchebags" and promised to be a better top guild. Look what happened they ended up much worse and completely ruined the end game for all others involved. It was bad before when it was IB... but not nearly as bad as the last few years with TMO.

Are there similarities, yes

Are they the same.... no

Of course they aren't exactly the same. There's different staff now, personalities invovled etc.

The intention is there, the behavior is there, the % of mobs taken is there.

BUT! The same thing is happening and everyone who isn't at the mob kills is talking shit... which receives the "you guys are noobs" response back.

I want to see the other guilds make a raid calendar in TMO's absence. Then you win the argument and are the "better people".

Go ahead, do it.

I forget who but they said it was a line of like 10 guilds for Venril or something on their live server. Sounds about right. I'm sure the try hard raid crowd who invests godly hours is just dying to implement a calendar like that.

[Purdee]

its not about play style, its about treating each other with respect.

[Xadion]

IB will make an agreement and maybe keep it during the two weeks, and maybe a little after. Would beat out the past record of agreement keeping in the DA days.