Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[SCB]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gear keeps dropping, loop holes keep getting found. Yeah the goal post moves a bit.

I'm referring to you changing the conversation so you keep seeming like you're right. It's similar to what Alarti does, but less retarded than how he does it.

About the fungi camp - if you're not holding the camp by actually sitting down there and fighting the mobs, then you really don't have room to discuss anything being "difficult." You're bypassing difficulty through creativity, which is admirable and imo what EQ is really about (because it isn't about difficulty, as I've been saying). However this destroys the point you're trying to argue, which is that you're somehow better at the game than everyone else who presses auto-attack and then watches a movie on their second monitor.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by SCB [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm referring to you changing the conversation so you keep seeming like you're right. It's similar to what Alarti does, but less retarded than how he does it.

I'm taking pieces of the argument and fleshing them out, or describing what is really going on. He has a nasty habit of doing this too. It's even worse when we pull together things that have happened historically. If I was in many people's position reading it and then challenging their position, it would definitely irk me.

[Nirgon]

I'll say EQ end game doesn't require a tenth of the hotkeys or button mashing HEH

Preparation and execution is #1 here, not DDR finger skills

[Zapatos]

I'm surprised this hasn't moved to RNF yet!

Ok here's a good question: WHY is ninja looting not allowed in VP while training people who aren't raiding is?
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...eak+ninja+loot

Originally Posted by ROGEAN

Ninja looting is not a raid dispute. It is an individual basis.

So... if I take a stroll through VP on an "individual basis" to walk to plane of sky... and darkdeath, aalpha, bruce, sericx or w/e you spell that bad monks name, etc etc come to try and train me for fun, that's still totally fine when put up next to a ruling like the above?

There, I pointed out an inconsistency.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Zapatos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm surprised this hasn't moved to RNF yet!

Ok here's a good question: WHY is ninja looting not allowed in VP while training people who aren't raiding is?
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...eak+ninja+loot


So... if I take a stroll through VP on an "individual basis" to walk to plane of sky... and darkdeath, aalpha, bruce, sericx or w/e you spell that bad monks name, etc etc come to try and train me for fun, that's still totally fine when put up next to a ruling like the above?

There, I pointed out an inconsistency.

Poor Anthrax.

[Sarius]

Originally Posted by Zapatos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm surprised this hasn't moved to RNF yet!

Ok here's a good question: WHY is ninja looting not allowed in VP while training people who aren't raiding is?
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...eak+ninja+loot


So... if I take a stroll through VP on an "individual basis" to walk to plane of sky... and darkdeath, aalpha, bruce, sericx or w/e you spell that bad monks name, etc etc come to try and train me for fun, that's still totally fine when put up next to a ruling like the above?

There, I pointed out an inconsistency.

This is actually a really interesting point. Is training by one person a raid dispute or an individual action? If training is allowed then ninja looting should be as well.

[Autotune]

Modern mmos take more player skill than EQ does.

Here, it's all about 5 or so people knowing what the fuck to do and setting up the other 20-50 and then getting the target to those 20-50 and then having those 20-50 attack when told to attack.

The rest is all about what gear you are rocking in EQ.

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Modern mmos take more player skill than EQ does.

Here, it's all about 5 or so people knowing what the fuck to do and setting up the other 20-50 and then getting the target to those 20-50 and then having those 20-50 attack when told to attack.

The rest is all about what gear you are rocking in EQ.

^ Agree. It's weird because you would think that on a PVE server the challenge would be fighting the environment's mobs, but this is not at all the case. The difficult part on this server is the environment of players; it's like blue is a wannabe be PVP server.

[getsome]

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, we were told VP had no GM involvement. In those very early days, TMO killed a VP dragon. After the VP dragon was dead IB killed all the TMO survivors. IB was ready to delete the loots on the dead dragon. Then out of thin air Rogean appeared and ruled VP did have rules and that IB would suffer consequences if we looted the dead dragon's corpse who we were now standing over with no TMO in zone. This was a guild on guild event.

I am merely providing everyone pro or con with context regarding a decision made by the head man in charge during the very early days of VP.

[timhutton]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, we were told VP had no GM involvement. In those very early days, TMO killed a VP dragon. After the VP dragon was dead IB killed all the TMO survivors. IB was ready to delete the loots on the dead dragon. Then out of thin air Rogean appeared and ruled VP did have rules and that IB would suffer consequences if we looted the dead dragon's corpse who we were now standing over with no TMO in zone. This was a guild on guild event.

I am merely providing everyone pro or con with context regarding a decision made by the head man in charge during the very early days of VP.

FWIW I believe it was determined that ninjalooting would be considered a server rule or part of the PnP or some shit? That was the justification as to why it would be handled by a GM. The same type of thing that occured when VD was mem-blurring mobs, because it was "exploiting a bug" it didn't matter that occured in VP.

Basically:

the show where everything's made up and the points don't matter

Just substitute points for rules.