Raiding Question- TMO

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO has earned their spot by "taking out" the guild that was winning the system before them. TMO hasn't been #1 since variance was implemented. Your version of reality is vastly skewed.

TMO's matra to competition:

Train, grief, harrass, troll, insert moles, cheat, buy marshmellows / sex up / facebook friends the GMs for favortism, push the envelope on suspensions and bans until the competition leaves the server or is assimilated into their guild.

[Crazyeye]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO's matra to competition:

Train, grief, harrass, troll, insert moles, cheat, buy marshmellows / sex up / facebook friends the GMs for favortism, push the envelope on suspensions and bans until the competition leaves the server or is assimilated into their guild.

Cant believe this guy still plays here with all his posts containing such rage. Must be the obsession he has for TMO that keeps him going, goodjob guys.

Really though take a chill pill, its just a game. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO's matra to competition:

Train, grief, harrass, troll, insert moles, cheat, buy marshmellows / sex up / facebook friends the GMs for favortism, push the envelope on suspensions and bans until the competition leaves the server or is assimilated into their guild.

All those things are the exact same things VD and IB were both doing at the time.

As a matter of fact, your members and IB members both bragged about RMTing out and paying Amelinda (the marshmellow GM) to keep quiet.

Your QQ posts are lame and paint you as some type of victim. However, everyone that was involved in that section of P99's history knows you're sore your guild failed after everything was over.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All those things are the exact same things VD and IB were both doing at the time.

As a matter of fact, your members and IB members both bragged about RMTing out and paying Amelinda (the marshmellow GM) to keep quiet.

Your QQ posts are lame and paint you as some type of victim. However, everyone that was involved in that section of P99's history knows you're sore your guild failed after everything was over.

Half-truth on that one. IB RMT'd quite a bit but I've not heard of any ties to Amelinda or any other GM. Xz being a dev was perhaps a conflict of interest, however.

[Metallikus]

rather than deny TMO did these things, u point the finger and say IB / VD did them instead? The people that TMO griefed off the server were the one griefing people off the server? Who did they grief off the server?

[Metallikus]

TMO is the guild that moled their way into VD private forums and posted real life pictures of the females that were in the guild into the RNF forums going a bit too far by any measurement of vileness.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Half-truth on that one. IB RMT'd quite a bit but I've not heard of any ties to Amelinda or any other GM. Xz being a dev was perhaps a conflict of interest, however.

I never stated the bit about RMTing and paying Amelinda as fact, just that it was bragged about by members in both of those guilds (who were known to actually RMT off).

Xz stuff was just blown up and mostly used for interesting trolling wars in RnF.

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rather than deny TMO did these things, u point the finger and say IB / VD did them instead? The people that TMO griefed off the server were the one griefing people off the server? Who did they grief off the server?

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO is the guild that moled their way into VD private forums and posted real life pictures of the females that were in the guild into the RNF forums going a bit too far by any measurement of vileness.

Please take a moment and read.

I said "All those things are the exact same things VD and IB were both doing at the time." Not that TMO wasn't doing them, I didn't deny any of what you said. I corrected it. It's well known that TMO wasn't the only one doing that stuff.

As far as TMO as a guild sending in a mole to do what you said about the picture, it's hardly even close to the truth. Most didn't know about it before it happened and nearly everyone in TMO didn't like it. So again you're stretching your truth to paint a victim. All the guilds planted moles, it was nothing new and has been around long before I even started raiding. The situation continually escalated until that incident happened, then people from all sides agreed that it was going too far and it leveled out to the usually mole/spy game. So, please stop acting like some saint when you speak of moles and spies. VD had them, IB had them and TMO had them (guilds still have them).

[Metallikus]

well i appreciate your acknowledgement of certain truths rather than the usual rage/crazy accusations. It's those things that need to be cleaned up from the raiding scene still. I must be the only one who ever wanted to compete honorably without all the hooplah shady tactics involved in removing an entity of players from the server. Why can't people play with respect, tell the truth, and generally be non-douchebags? Obviously too many different people for that to happen, but at the very least the leadership could be friendly and cordial and interact in a sane and rational manner?

[Loly Taa]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well i appreciate your acknowledgement of certain truths rather than the usual rage/crazy accusations. It's those things that need to be cleaned up from the raiding scene still. I must be the only one who ever wanted to compete honorably without all the hooplah shady tactics involved in removing an entity of players from the server. Why can't people play with respect, tell the truth, and generally be non-douchebags? Obviously too many different people for that to happen, but at the very least the leadership could be friendly and cordial and interact in a sane and rational manner?

We all want to compete honorably- Lets say FTE shouts were put in; All of us on Trak spawn, Trak spawns- aggros BDA first, shouts the name of whom he aggroed first. TMO (and assumably FE if they're smart) would simply run out of the room and relog as quickly as they could.

Or on Faydedar, there would be no question who pulled him once the shout goes off- once it goes off once via this code it does not go off again until it de-aggros, so if you tag something and it doesn't say your name- it's already aggroed.

If anyone really wants to help the raid scene, get Rogean or nilbog to implement this code (or something similar) as part of the quest scripts for each raid mob.

sub EVENT_AGGRO { # Triggered when a player aggros a mob
   if(!$thisFirstAggro) { # Checks if this person is the first person to aggro this mob
      quest::shout(“$name was the first to engage me.”); # Shout name of first person to activate this event
      $thisFirstAggro++; # Increment this variable so we don't do multiple shouts.
   }
}

sub EVENT_COMBAT { # Triggered when a mob enters or exits combat
   if(!$combat_state) { # If we are leaving combat (state 0) 
      $thisFirstAggro = 0; We reset $thisFirstAggro as the NPC leaves aggroed state so it can shout again.
      quest::shout(“My attackers have failed!”); # No more, "can we tag it yet!?" questions.
   }
}

Wow, no more tears- no more question on who was first to engage, no need to take logs, screenshots, etc. Mob doesn't shout at you = it belongs to someone else when you tag it, so you leave it alone until it de-aggros or resets. Hell I even tossed in a shout when it decides to reset the first to engage flag so there couldn't possibly be any question when the mob is ready to be engaged by another guild.

Keep in mind though, instances of kiting should still be handled by the GMs, as to code a kiting fix for each mob would be a ton of work and very mob specific.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Aeon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I assume you ment that comment for Autotune, and not the other guy who rarely ever posts?

218 posts since 2010...

You do realize that post count doesn't include RnF posts right?