Ragefire Agreement/Rotation

[Bruman]

Everyone is obviously interested in helping Ninik get her epic.

Just right after they get theirs, of course.

[maverixdamighty]

Ragefire has also been changed this week that is a new dynamic for the situation. No one expects VD to do anything, but you are calling out IB/TMO for doing something that you are trying to do yourself, are you not? I'll be there contesting every ragefire that pops if Ninik wants to, but it doesn't seem like she wants to even bother with the current attitude of some players there.

[Motec]

Lol @ thinking I havn't spoken to everyone BUT you, as Zeelot's response to a rotation was demanding flat out that TMO gets the next 3 ragefires uncontested.

Dont put the PR machine on, you fuckwits showed your cards when the entire server wanted a rotation, and now your current hand is to get multiple free ragefires uncontested before going into a rotation?

Ele. You should remember fondly the multiple attempts at a rotation that have been tried with you, xeli etc, between me, nirron and god knows who else that Zeelot knocks back and you lap dogs cop sweet.

A rotation: (remembering the first few ragefires were a rotation based on hours put into the camp). Should simply go between VD/BDA/Taken/Divinity/TMO and IB.

Not TMO/TMO/TMO/other guilds as Zeelot demands to start with.

Attention P1999, 10 man click fest due to commence as soon as raid suspension is complete as some TMO members halt any sort of cooperative progress on this server. And you wonder why epics and VP are held ransom against us...

It's mind numbing to try and talk to you guys. And I WANT a rotation, and still to save any conflict of interest, i'll go LAST as I do not give a fuck for epic. I care for there being a trouble free agreement between us all so we can play in peace and harbour friendships.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Motec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol @ thinking I havn't spoken to everyone BUT you, as Zeelot's response to a rotation was demanding flat out that TMO gets the next 3 ragefires uncontested.

Dont put the PR machine on, you fuckwits showed your cards when the entire server wanted a rotation, and now your current hand is to get multiple free ragefires uncontested before going into a rotation?

Ele. You should remember fondly the multiple attempts at a rotation that have been tried with you, xeli etc, between me, nirron and god knows who else that Zeelot knocks back and you lap dogs cop sweet.

A rotation: (remembering the first few ragefires were a rotation based on hours put into the camp). Should simply go between VD/BDA/Taken/Divinity/TMO and IB.

Not TMO/TMO/TMO/other guilds as Zeelot demands to start with.

Attention P1999, 10 man click fest due to commence as soon as raid suspension is complete as some TMO members halt any sort of cooperative progress on this server. And you wonder why epics and VP are held ransom against us...

It's mind numbing to try and talk to you guys. And I WANT a rotation, and still to save any conflict of interest, i'll go LAST as I do not give a fuck for epic. I care for there being a trouble free agreement between us all so we can play in peace and harbour friendships.

i don't care what tag you wear, mine or otherwise, until ninik gets her epic, i'm going to personally make it as impossible as hell for anyone to do the turnin.

You've all been warned.

[lilyanna]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i don't care what tag you wear, mine or otherwise, until ninik gets her epic, i'm going to personally make it as impossible as hell for anyone to do the turnin.

You've all been warned.

How are you going to do that and protect your VP dragons at the same time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maverixdamighty]

Can cross naggy/talendor off your list. Can't see how those would be considered fiascoes. You waited til the attempting guilds wiped before you engaged.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can cross naggy/talendor off your list. Can't see how those would be considered fiascoes. You waited til the attempting guilds wiped before you engaged.

I take Trak back... I remember we had a first attempt, our kiter failed miserably, and while we were regrouping for a 2nd attempt, BDA unintentionally pulled Trak and trained themselves and us. Maestro, we mobilized from Sol B just to see a guild standing there staring at him, so we pulled. No idea why they hadn't engaged.

[Splorf22]

I do have to kinda laugh at TMO/IB shutting everyone out of Ragefire for 5 weeks and then suddenly you are raid suspended and it's "oh poor ninik". Where was all this love and compassion a month ago when the thread was originally created? You could have said "we'll do the 5 clerics who spent the most time clicking air in the lair plus Ninik", but you didn't.

Anyway, I think this particular problem will go away pretty fast - my understanding with the new patch is that Ragefire will spawn about twice a week or maybe even more. So we'll get 8-10 more sprinklers this month and I'd be pretty surprised if one of them doesn't have Ninik's name on it.

I don't feel too bad for Taken. Maestro was up at least 10 minutes. So basically they just had 15 people AFK up there, and if this is enough to give you dibs on all raid mobs . . . lord help us. I do feel bad for BDA not getting Draco though. They had a nice head start with more than sufficient numbers. Trakanon we experimented with training the mobs away, failed pretty miserably, ended up fighting him right at the entrance to the lair, training BDA. As we rezzed up, BDA pulled Trak by accident training us. Finally we went in and did it the slow way successfully. I don't think there was any malice there, just some incompetence on both sides. Meanwhile TMO was busy rezzing/buffing/COH'ing BDA as much as possible of course.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by lilyanna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How are you going to do that and protect your VP dragons at the same time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a few friends left on the server, surprisingly lol.

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do have to kinda laugh at TMO/IB shutting everyone out of Ragefire for 5 weeks and then suddenly you are raid suspended and it's "oh poor ninik". Where was all this love and compassion a month ago when the thread was originally created? You could have said "we'll do the 5 clerics who spent the most time clicking air in the lair plus Ninik", but you didn't.

Anyway, I think this particular problem will go away pretty fast - my understanding with the new patch is that Ragefire will spawn about twice a week or maybe even more. So we'll get 8-10 more sprinklers this month and I'd be pretty surprised if one of them doesn't have Ninik's name on it.

I don't feel too bad for Taken. Maestro was up at least 10 minutes. So basically they just had 15 people AFK up there, and if this is enough to give you dibs on all raid mobs . . . lord help us. I do feel bad for BDA not getting Draco though. They had a nice head start with more than sufficient numbers.

Again, read that ninik agreed to it. If she had wanted a spot in it badly enough, i would have done the same thing now. However, she accepted that they spent a great deal of time clicking that air. The previous clerics stated that a new rotation would be agreed upon later when it was fixed.

It's fixed now and guess what, VD is trying to push everyone away that they have the power to while IB/TMO are suspended and can't act on it.

It's still not going to work.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do have to kinda laugh at TMO/IB shutting everyone out of Ragefire for 5 weeks and then suddenly you are raid suspended and it's "oh poor ninik". Where was all this love and compassion a month ago when the thread was originally created? You could have said "we'll do the 5 clerics who spent the most time clicking air in the lair plus Ninik", but you didn't.

Anyway, I think this particular problem will go away pretty fast - my understanding with the new patch is that Ragefire will spawn about twice a week or maybe even more. So we'll get 8-10 more sprinklers this month and I'd be pretty surprised if one of them doesn't have Ninik's name on it.

I don't feel too bad for Taken. Maestro was up at least 10 minutes. So basically they just had 15 people AFK up there, and if this is enough to give you dibs on all raid mobs . . . lord help us. I do feel bad for BDA not getting Draco though. They had a nice head start with more than sufficient numbers.

EQ doesn't have a magical bubble that prevents other people from contesting stuff. I'm honestly surprised no one outside of IB/TMO came in to contest it.


Also it wasn't a TMO - IB guild based rotation, it was an agreement amongst the clerics with the most time at the camp, just so happens they were from IB/TMO. We randomed for the slots, which people now call a "rotation".

The OP was an attempt to demonstrate that it could be handled peacefully and to seek additional input from the rest of the community regarding how to go forward from here on out. The patch, thankfully, has been implemented so we should be seeing 2-6 ragefires per week instead of the previous 1 per 9 days. I would still like to see something worked out to prevent another FFA click fest.