Xzerion says TR isn't shown favoritism?

[G13]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What should be taken into account, though, is that if Durison got nicked for training the rules should apply here as well, but the punishment not as harsh. Training another guild at a raid means your guild benefits and i think would consequently justify a guild-wide raid suspension, but certainly not for 2 weeks.

When a guild member cheats via SEQ/MQ they should be permabanned, no questions asked. If that guild benefited from those cheats then they too get a raid suspension. But if a member cheats, trains, dupes for his own benefit then i can't see why an entire guild would be punished, nevermind every single raiding guild on the server.

I have no disagreement with you. I've actually commented on these specific points in a different thread. Using SEQ is an entirely different situation than aggroing mobs on a raid and training. Gwence was suspended on his monk for doing this in fear. Hell, Trystich did it to Daltheb on a draco raid. He had it recorded on FRAPS.

Nobody asked that they be raid suspended for those offenses. Appropriate actions were taken against the accounts. In this situation though we have precedent that has already been established by Rogean and Nilbog. If an officer/tracker/raid leader, ie someone in a position of leadership with a guild is caught hacking, the entire guild suffers as a result.

A minimum punishment for Perun using ShowEQ on competitive raids should a 2 week raid suspension for TR/IB. Period.

[Ektar]

guys don't you remember that it was proven that perun is a dev? perun is a dev is uthgaard is rogean. rogean does not punish rogean.

case closed.

[Skope]

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[Seaweedpimp]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

srsly, you dont need to cheat eq endgame. the only thing you need is to be first at target, and thats TRs strenght

lmfao

[G13]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not defending cheating (<--yes you are), Im saying they have been punished now it's time to move on, you want to crucify people in TR because you are bitter. I dont see you speaking out against the other 364 people that got suspended, just Perun, because you're bitter.

You say you don't care about emotions but your entire crusade is based on them.

You have zero credibility. All you are doing is "defending your friends" for cheating. I play on P99 because I enjoy the game of Everquest. We all play here because of our love for the game. This server is supposed to be a haven for players who want to re-live the classic experience. The end game drama is irrelevant. It does not define the game for the people who log in every night and play by the rules. IB used to be a guild that defined itself based on skill. Now it's been reduced to trying to rationalize cheating, just so they can get their friends back and the status quo is maintained.

The other 364 people that got banned were not officers/raid leaders/people in positions of leadership in one of the top 2 raiding guilds on the server that control the end game. TR/IB is in the unique situation/position of being the only guild, besides Peace Pipe, to have leadership caught using 3rd party hacks. The other top tier raiding guild's officer core were not caught cheating/using 3rd party hacks during competitive raids.

Was anyone in Divinity even suspended? Not that I'm aware of, though I'm sure it's possible. There is a larger issue with the server here that people aren't addressing. Neither are Rogean and Nilbog, and that is people are willing to do anything, even cheat and use 3rd party hacks, to kill pixels and boost their egos. At what point does development draw the line? Why even have rules if they aren't going to be properly enforced.

Has the server been reduced to constantly reacting to how TR/IB feels about a situation now? Is that what P99 has become? You might as well rename the server Project TR/IB and call it a day. The rest of us are just guests in TR/IBs sandbox, where TR/IB define what the rules and punishments are for everyone else but themselves because Xzerion knows how to code. I mean you're openly defending your pals hacking. Kinsawt and Xzerion stated the cheaters can re-app. We both know that Perun isn't going anywhere and will be plvled back up to 60 and given money from TR's stash the second his account is released.

I'll state my opinion on what the proper punishment should be one last time. All 365 accounts should be banned permanently, or at the very least every character deleted off the accounts. Any raid guild whose officers/raid leaders/leadership are caught using 3rd party hacks suffer the following penalties:

1) First offense - 2 week raid suspension. This should be leveled against TR/IB immediately for Perun using a 3rd party hack during a competitive raid.

2) Second offense - Permanent disbanding of the guild. All officer accounts permanently banned. Officer IPs banned from every setting foot on the server again.

No exceptions. This server is only as good as the community allows it to be. If proper action isn't taken against the guild whose officers were caught using 3rd party hacks, I believe that all the other guilds whose officers have been vindicated should protest. Divinity, Taken, BDA, TMO, Reclamation, Mischief officer core should be outraged that TR/IB hasn't been raid suspended yet.

Rogean if you want the server to police itself, you should allow the community that didn't cheat define what the proper punishment should be for those that did. It's the right thing to do. Take the proper action that benefits the community and the overall health/integrity of the server and do what's right.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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but y u mad tho?

[Ektar]

your lack of spacebar usage has stretched the screen and I can't see your signature properly.

You are ruining my immersion.

[Motec]

Since p1999 is just TR's playground, you might as well all quit so lord Ektar may rule over the lands proper.

[Slathar]

WIPE IT CLEAN

JIHAD!

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Motec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since p1999 is just TR's playground, you might as well all quit so lord Ektar may rule over the lands proper.