Cheating everywhere, GMs???

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

coth racing has a few things in it's favor, imo:

1) to the extent that the coth can also be scripted, the cothee still has to not fumble it once they land and get FTE (granted, this is less relevant now that kael FTE's come with a 5 minute lockout).

2) to the extent coth racing is also suspect, the distribution of winners was spread out more evenly, which suggests a more fair system. If we can't have faith in either coth races or footraces, we might as well choose the one that had the largest variety in individuals who could win it.

3) the barrier to coth racing is much much lower than footracing (which probably goes a long way towards explaining why the distribution of winners is more spread out). to the extent what the devs (and Vanq., at least so they claim) want is a competitive environment, lower barriers of entry to the competition themselves will promote rather than hinder that goal.

Coth Racing would only be more inclusive if there were 24 hour lockouts or something.

But, if you think a .15ms advantage of pressing W before others is game breaking, think about the advantage of 24/7 ability to coth. Never has to pee, doesn't watch netflix, doesn't get bored, doesn't get tired. There is a reason they swiftly and abruptly removed it.

Trust me cothing isn't the way.

However, I think my solution really would cut out a lot of questions. If you do a roll off in an enviroment such as this, the possibility of cheating becomes very very low.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For instance, person asks if all racers are ready. They say yes. He says "Okay, 5xx Starting rolls"

/random 1000

/random 1000

If the person immediately starts rolling, you are risking losing the race trying to modify your script to roll on X. I.E You skip it completely.

There, there's the solution. Please, implement this and go practice.

Extremely easy to get around this. Have script wait for input to tell it which starting number to look for. Wait for announcer to say 5xx or 5__ or whatever it is they say. Literally takes like 1/2 a second to type the number in a CLI and set a variable for the script to watch for. If announcer says the number and rolls in under .5 seconds it's going to screw with people playing manual and legit.

Bravo for the attempt at coming up with a solution but I promise you this won't work. There are people MUCH more skilled than me at programming playing this game and I came up with a workaround in like 5 seconds.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by PlsNoBan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Extremely easy to get around this. Have script wait for input to tell it which starting number to look for. Wait for announcer to say 5xx or 5__ or whatever it is they say. Literally takes like 1/2 a second to type the number in a CLI and set a variable for the script to watch for. If announcer says the number and rolls in under .5 seconds it's going to screw with people playing manual and legit.

Bravo for the attempt at coming up with a solution but I promise you this won't work. There are people MUCH more skilled than me at programming playing this game and I came up with a workaround in like 5 seconds.

Then just do a countdown. 5 4 3 2 1 GOGOGO

I think that makes it as fair as possible. If you aren't ready to fucking press W in .3 after you know it's coming, then don't line up.

perhaps we can think of ways to prove legit pressing W vs script, however my biggest point here is that autofiring the GOGO isn't going to win you a race.

Laughingor has won a lot of races, and his ping is probably 200 minimum. Aikons, fastest man alive, played primarily with 140 ping, won a shit load of FTE. Kelz same shit..

Detoxx has won so many fucking statue and aow and i swear to god he is grampa off the line. The guy has won double digit amount of slow and steady wins the race mobs in kael. Swear to god.

Just do a fast start no rolling. For the whole window.I think ping is a bigger difference then script at that point. And being first off the line probably increases your chance to win the race by like 5%.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by xdrcfrx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this is called moving the goalposts, and is another bad faith rhetorical tactic. all things being equal, the first off the line is going to win the race. the route is easily practiced, and it doesn't take that long to learn how to run it. the advantage gained by scripting the start (which is both undeniably possible, and very easy to do) is the difference. in this line of thinking, to the extent stunningly is doing that then every race he has won could be suspect. more generally, every race is suspect from the outset, because there's not way to verify that the person who won didn't cheat to get the best jump. since we can no longer have any faith in the fairness of the result, the method of the contest should be changed.

bring back coth racing 2022.

This guy clearly doesnt race.

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy clearly doesnt race.

wow what a compelling point! you really got me there.

[Naethyn]

Disable logging. Remove bindsight from raid zones.

[Nibblewitz]

Jumps are meaningless in minute(s)-long races. Stunningly could give me 5 second head start, but if I don’t know the lines, I’m done.

[Ringi]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jumps are meaningless in minute(s)-long races. Stunningly could give me 5 second head start, but if I don’t know the lines, I’m done.

So, what you're saying is that all of us are incapable of learning the race path (hence Stunninglys impressive win rate)?

If he knows the race path and always gets a significant jump, he's always going to win against someone who just knows the race path.

[Nibblewitz]

Originally Posted by Ringi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, what you're saying is that all of us are incapable of learning the race path (hence Stunninglys impressive win rate)?

If he knows the race path and always gets a significant jump, he's always going to win against someone who just knows the race path.

Not at all. Everyone can learn the paths with practice, but the top racers are doing this dozens of not hundreds of times a week. For each foot race.

Step your game up!

[Ringi]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not at all. Everyone can learn the paths with practice, but the top racers are doing this dozens of not hundreds of times a week. For each foot race.

Step your game up!

Oh wow, duh! Never thought of that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]